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    Re: Mohegan Sun Casino Owners Received $54 Million In Stimulus Money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I find it exceedingly difficult to accept that a group of 1700 people that takes in more than $50 million in profits annually is "having difficulty with credit."



    That's a cop out, political excuse (and not a very good one). EVERY group of 1700 individuals, every community of less (or more) than 20,000, every freakin' STATE is challenged in obtaining credit because of the ongoing economic crisis. What makes this super wealthy tribe so special?

    I still call bull****. Dodd and his cronies are up to something dirty, here.[/QUOTE
    i still fail to see the issue.......it's a loan that will be paid back. furthermore, the state receives GREAT revenue from this tribe. it's a mutually beneficial arrangement, i think.

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    Re: Mohegan Sun Casino Owners Received $54 Million In Stimulus Money

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It was given to the tribe that owns the Casino to build a PR Project and to promote their own tribe.

    Now, are you going to keep telling us this was a good use of money?
    I've never said that, so to "keep telling you" would be hard. You're doing that extrapolation thing again.
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    Re: Mohegan Sun Casino Owners Received $54 Million In Stimulus Money

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i still fail to see the issue.......it's a loan that will be paid back. furthermore, the state receives GREAT revenue from this tribe. it's a mutually beneficial arrangement, i think.
    Not when this small group of 1700 super-wealthy people are taking more than one third of the pie.

    The $54 million loan represents more than one-third of the $167.8 million allocated by the USDA in the latest wave of stimulus funding for its rural development program. --ABC

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    Re: Mohegan Sun Casino Owners Received $54 Million In Stimulus Money

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Not when this small group of 1700 super-wealthy people are taking more than one third of the pie.
    you have a point.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

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    Re: Mohegan Sun Casino Owners Received $54 Million In Stimulus Money

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you have a point.
    It's kinda the point we've both been hounding. I more so the "corruption side" Glinda moreso the "Amount" side. Either way, it doesn't pass the smell test.
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    Re: Mohegan Sun Casino Owners Received $54 Million In Stimulus Money

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's kinda the point we've both been hounding. I more so the "corruption side" Glinda moreso the "Amount" side. Either way, it doesn't pass the smell test.
    well, i can't find any specific information on this, such as who else applied for the money, and how the decision was made.

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    Re: Mohegan Sun Casino Owners Received $54 Million In Stimulus Money

    More food for thought:
    A listing of the federal funding for the project shows four separate loans amounting to nearly $32 million that will be used to construct a "Tribal Educational Center." A fifth loan, at more than $22 million, would be used for the "Tribal Community Center."
    Previously, I had read only that the money was going to build "an education center and a community center." There was some question as to who these buildings/services would benefit - the tribe or the actual community in which they live. Now we have verification that these buildings and the services they offer will benefit ONLY the tribe.


    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    well, i can't find any specific information on this, such as who else applied for the money, and how the decision was made.
    This gives a bit more detail:

    The money is part of a $167.8 million loan from the Agriculture Department rural development program for 145 investments in 37 states.
    If my math is correct, the tribe got a total of $74 million (they previously received $20 million) in stimulus loans from a larger pot of $167.8 million. That leaves $93.8 million to be shared among 144 other project in 36 other states, which works out to about $2.6 million per state and/or $680,000 per project.

    I'm still confused how this one group of 1700 super-wealthy people was awarded more than one-third of the available funds, leaving 144 FAR more needy and deserving communities to fight over the crumbs that Dodd et al left behind.

    Time for an investigation.
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    Re: Mohegan Sun Casino Owners Received $54 Million In Stimulus Money

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    More food for thought:


    Previously, I had read only that the money was going to build "an education center and a community center." There was some question as to who these buildings/services would benefit - the tribe or the actual community in which they live. Now we have verification that these buildings and the services they offer will benefit ONLY the tribe.




    This gives a bit more detail:



    If my math is correct, the tribe got a total of $74 million (they previously received $20 million) in stimulus loans from a larger pot of $167.8 million. That leaves $93.8 million to be shared among 144 other project in 36 other states, which works out to about $2.6 million per state and/or $680,000 per project.

    I'm still confused how this one group of 1700 super-wealthy people was awarded more than one-third of the available funds, leaving 144 FAR more needy and deserving communities to fight over the crumbs that Dodd et al left behind.

    Time for an investigation.
    They aren't "super-wealthy."
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    Re: Mohegan Sun Casino Owners Received $54 Million In Stimulus Money

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They aren't "super-wealthy."
    And you aren't the least bit biased, partisan or predictable either!
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    Re: Mohegan Sun Casino Owners Received $54 Million In Stimulus Money

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They aren't "super-wealthy."
    Ah, well, everything's relative, isn't it?

    $53.6 million annual profit divided by 1700 people = $31,529.4118 per person, per year.

    These are difficult times, Deuce. Everyone's hurting. People are damned lucky if they have (or can find) a job these days. How many people do you know it today's world that are handed $31,500 every year for free? If I received an unearned annual income of $31,500 (plus health care), I'd definitely consider myself "super wealthy" in this 12% unemployment/15 million-plus out of work/50 million without health coverage world, and sure as HELL wouldn't be asking the US taxpayer to help me out.


    The overall median personal income for all individuals over the age of 18 was $25,149 ($32,140 for those age 25 or above) in the year 2005. The overall median income for all 155 million persons over the age of 15 who worked with earnings in 2005 was $28,567.
    I'll betcha a buck that those numbers have dropped significantly in the last five years.

    Of course, YMMV. Maybe $31,529 is a pittance to you. I wager there are many tens of millions of Americans that would disagree with you, though.

    But beyond this, I encourage you to find any other American "community" of 1700 people living within a 700-acre radius (the size of the Mohegan reservation) wherein every individual (man, woman, and child) among them receives $31,529 annually for FREE.

    Further, I encourage you to find any other extremely localized "community" of 1700 people in America that own not one but TWO casinos (in different states, yet) that are as profitable as those owned by the Mohegans.

    I don't think such things exist, but if you can find just one other 700-acre "community" of 1700 people where each and every individual receives full healthcare and a nice $31,529 check for free every year, I'd love to know about it!

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