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School Kids Chant: "I Am An Obama Scholar"

What analytical skill were being displayed in the least in the OP?

There's nothing analytical here to discuss. At all.

It's merely more "Obama is a black Nazi trying to burn down America by mind-melding with our children and making us all have gay sex and abort the babies as he takes our guns and turn us all into brownshirted Socialists."

Is there a policy being discussed or criticized here? Nope.

What are we to take away from this?

That if young black kids are devoting themselves to academics by meeting the president's challenge, it's a "cult of personality"?

What is the people who name EVERYTHING, including their dogs poops, for Ronald Reagan? What about the people who complain about how HIGH their taxes are right now, when they're lower than they were during most of Reagan's term? Or those that complain about amnesty for illegals when the first president to do it was their beloved Ronald Reagan?

Let's analyze that cult of personality, shall we?

Or can we recognize that every president ends up developing a bit of a cult of personality because it's the nature of the office in the media age? Indeed, I would question one who doesn't - because it means they're completely ineffective in developing support from their followers.

But, instead we can just sit around and pretend that the other side is worse because it suits our partisan needs.

Or maybe people are concerned that schools are teaching kids in an un-objective manner. Tell me, since when has "I am a <insert president name> scholar" formed a necessary part of a child's curriculum?
 
If I was an Obama scholar, I don't think I would admit to it.;)
 
Heh cute. I believe we are all entitled to lay out our comments as we see fit as long as it is within the rules.

True dat. I believe there's a rule that governs staying on topic, too. Obviously, the topic isn't Your Star's opinion of the quality of the content of Mr Vicchio's post, but rather the actual content of Mr. Vicchio's post.
 
True dat. I believe there's a rule that governs staying on topic, too. Obviously, the topic isn't Your Star's opinion of the quality of the content of Mr Vicchio's post, but rather the actual content of Mr. Vicchio's post.

We have gotten off topic about that, you are right. V posted something. Redress responded, than we started this meta conversation about Redresses response. I guess I will stop posting about it. You probably should too.
 
Or maybe people are concerned that schools are teaching kids in an un-objective manner. Tell me, since when has "I am a <insert president name> scholar" formed a necessary part of a child's curriculum?

They can do whatever the hell they want.

If the post had been about the teacher not teaching critical thinking, a point would be made.

But that's not the point. It's just more unmerited criticism for something that the president actually had nothing to do with at all - aside from his challenge to students to take their educations seriously.

My complaint is that there no point being made here; but people are acting as if there is.
 
True dat. I believe there's a rule that governs staying on topic, too. Obviously, the topic isn't Your Star's opinion of the quality of the content of Mr Vicchio's post, but rather the actual content of Mr. Vicchio's post.

And there is none.
 
Isn't this illegal?
 
Okay, do you people not have a problem with school children being taught to chant in honor of a person? A Living person? That's just creepy ****. That's borderline cult worship, and fits in with "Cult of Personality" worship.

The only thing that keeps this from being outright evil is that it's just one idiot teacher and not a mandated behavior.

Now, you can think it's because I "Hate Obama". I don't HATE him, I think he's the worst President of the last 40 years and his policy are terrible. But in this case, it's the ATTITUDE of this Teacher in his behavior that is the problem more so then anything Obama has done per say. Though his campaign did encourage personality based identification.
 
Okay, do you people not have a problem with school children being taught to chant in honor of a person? A Living person? That's just creepy ****. That's borderline cult worship, and fits in with "Cult of Personality" worship.

The only thing that keeps this from being outright evil is that it's just one idiot teacher and not a mandated behavior.

Now, you can think it's because I "Hate Obama". I don't HATE him, I think he's the worst President of the last 40 years and his policy are terrible. But in this case, it's the ATTITUDE of this Teacher in his behavior that is the problem more so then anything Obama has done per say. Though his campaign did encourage personality based identification.

Except its not really any of those things. Its some people who are being motivated to be what they want to be and using Obama as an example of someone who did achieve something in life. At least that is what I see. Ultimately the cadence was about the students more than it was about Obama. Notice that the word "I" was used much more frequently than the word Obama. Also notice that the professions listed largely were not professions that Obama might have held. I heard doctor and a few other things.

Ultimately, I see nothing wrong with holding a successful person up a as a role model. In fact, I see it as a good thing.

So yes, I think you are freaking out simply because Obama was mentioned and because you strongly dislike him, you did overreact and Redress's response was apropos. That being my opinion of course.
 
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Ultimately, I see nothing wrong with holding a successful person up a as a role model. In fact, I see it as a good thing.
So if it was w white kids chanting "I'm a Bush Scholar" instead you'd not find this a problem? You people are so blind to the dangers here, it's like History is something that happened to other people.
 
So if it was w white kids chanting "I'm a Bush Scholar" instead you'd not find this a problem? You people are so blind to the dangers here, it's like History is something that happened to other people.

Its all about context. In this case, I would find it odd because I don't see those people having much in common with Bush, but I would not be disturbed.

Maybe if a bunch of people at some country club were doing it, it would make sense. Of course people in that sort of situation would have much less reason to have to psych themselves up since their life is likely much easier.
 
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Also you must realize that Obama is a hero among the African American community.
 
Cults are legal its when they start committing crimes is when its time to get serious.

But, where do we draw the line?

It's the job of the education system to teach kids how to think, not what to think.
 
But, where do we draw the line?

It's the job of the education system to teach kids how to think, not what to think.

You hit the nail on the head. This isn't about paranoid or denial, or Obama even. This is about what's being taught in schools and how children are being taught WHAT to think instead of how to think for themselves. THAT's the danger here and why I previously made disparaging comments about parents not being involved enough in their kids educations and allowing such things to occur - AND - why alternatives for parents need to be made available so when some parents do not want their kids to chant such things, they can pull their kid out of that school and put them somewhere else. Simple.
 
Actually, since I have added more to the actual discussion than you, I think you might want to re-examine things.

I'm sure you feel that way looking through your trolling lense but it's not true.
 
At one point during the incantation the teacher asks the students to repeat the phrase "I am an Obama scholar."

See, that's the only part of it I don't like. Public school indoctrination is going to create the next generation of welfare losers.

Enjoy community college.
 
You hit the nail on the head. This isn't about paranoid or denial, or Obama even. This is about what's being taught in schools and how children are being taught WHAT to think instead of how to think for themselves. THAT's the danger here and why I previously made disparaging comments about parents not being involved enough in their kids educations and allowing such things to occur - AND - why alternatives for parents need to be made available so when some parents do not want their kids to chant such things, they can pull their kid out of that school and put them somewhere else. Simple.

And what are they being taught to think in this case?
 
And what are they being taught to think in this case?

I think that considering we are a democracy where there is choice as to what idealogy one wants to support, it does kinda impress and indoctrinate young minds to a singular idealogy when they are made to chant and exalt a political leader. There are so many apolitical people that could have revered in such a way that might not spark so much protest from outsiders looking in.

I admit that I am somewhat inflamed and my concern is raised by situations like this. And it would be one thing if this were isolated but it's not.
 
I remember chanting in elementary school that if Humphrey can't do it, Wallace can. Was this indoctrination? What's new here?
 
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