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Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

In one post you say, "for someone who pretends to know about the gulf" and in the next you're calling me a pinhead. You know, you don't increase your credibility here when you attack one of a handful of posters on this entire forum who've lived this life for 40+ years. You make yourself look bad, trust me on this one.

Namecalling is a method used by those who know they've been beat. And we all know you've been beat, hun.

:lamo Keep telling yourself that if helps you sleep better at night.

As the data I've provided in this thread has proved inconclusively, for someone who claims to know so much you're astoundingly uninformed as to the facts.

But do please keep insisting that Gulf region MMS employees haven't been found to be corrupt, and that there are other wells just as deep as the Horizon that have been operating for 60 years and have been shown to be perfectly safe.

Please. Everyone loves a good laugh. :thumbs:
 
LOL yea, every time you open your mouth stupidity spews forward. Some of it is so stupid you can't even find links to rebut it.

Overseas there are DOZENS of these wells in place, as deep or deeper than this, and they're kickin' along just fine. Do your own damn research on this. I ain't ya bitch.
 
LOL yea, every time you open your mouth stupidity spews forward. Some of it is so stupid you can't even find links to rebut it.

:confused: You make absolutely NO sense. I've provided documented evidence of my assertions, which have proven you wrong, over and over again. If you think what I've offered is so "stupid" it's incumbent upon YOU to "find links to rebut it." I'm satisfied that you will not be able to.

But then again, you don't provide documentation for anything at all. You just go on about how much you know because your daddy works for the (utterly corrupt) MMS Gulf region division.

How about backing up your wild nonsense with some factual evidence?

Overseas there are DOZENS of these wells in place, as deep or deeper than this, and they're kickin' along just fine. Do your own damn research on this. I ain't ya bitch.

Sorry, you're simply wrong. Again. :roll:
Deepwater Horizon Drills World's Deepest Oil & Gas Well

Transocean Ltd. (NYSE: RIG) announced that its ultra-deepwater semisubmersible rig Deepwater Horizon recently drilled the deepest oil and gas well ever while working for BP and its co-owners on the Tiber well in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico. Working with BP, the Transocean crews on the Deepwater Horizon drilled the well to 35,050 vertical depth and 35,055 feet measured depth (MD), or more than six miles, while operating in 4,130 feet of water.

"This impressive well depth record reflects the intensive planning and focus on effective operations by BP and the drilling crews of the Deepwater Horizon," said Robert L. Long, Transocean Ltd.'s Chief Executive Officer. "Congratulations to everyone involved."

These achievements are the latest in Transocean's history of world and other records dating back to the 1950s. In 2005, the ultra-deepwater drillship Discoverer Spirit set the record for the longest Gulf of Mexico oil and gas well at 34,189 feet, MD. Most recently, the Transocean jackup GSF Rig 127 drilled the industry’s longest extended-reach well in 2008 while working for Maersk Oil Qatar AS at 40,320 feet MD with a 35,770-foot horizontal section. The well was drilled offshore Qatar in 36 days and was incident-free.

Transocean also holds the current world water-depth record of operating in 10,011 feet of water set while working for Chevron in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico.

BP drills oil discovery in the Gulf of Mexico

Published: Sep 2, 2009

HOUSTON -- BP says it has drilled a “giant” oil discovery on the Tiber prospect in Keathley Canyon block 102 in the deepwater Gulf of Mexico Transocean’s using semisub Deepwater Horizon. The well, in 4,132 ft (1,259 m) of water, struck oil in multiple lower tertiary reservoirs, BP reports. It was drilled to a total depth of approximately 35,055 ft (10,685 m), making it the deepest well ever drilled by the oil and gas industry.

For the record, the above article comes from:

Offshore magazine, first published in 1954, is a monthly publication recognized as the worldwide leader for covering the key issues and trends relative to offshore technology, oil and gas E&P operations. It is the world's most highly respected magazine dedicated entirely to the offshore industry, and enjoys the highest and most widely read circulation in its class. Since 1910, The PennWell Petroleum Group has been the industry leader for coverage of and service to the worldwide petroleum industry. Its foundation magazines are Oil & Gas Journal, Offshore, Oil, Gas & Petrochem Equipment, Oil & Gas Financial Journal, LNG Observer and The Petroleum Buyers Guide. The group also produces targeted e-Newsletters, hosts global conferences and exhibitions, seminars and forums, directories and technical books, print and electronic databases, surveys and maps.

Silly me. Taking their word over yours. :doh
 
And I found this:

http://www.azom.com/news.asp?newsID=8326

Looks like I was right yet again, deepwater horizon is not the deepest well in the world.

They are DRILLING wells deeper than deepwater horizon. I know that for sure. Granted it's not in Europe as I originally thought, but deepwater horizon isn't the deepest. It may not be in 5000' of water, but its deeper than DWH.

See, you'd know nothing without google, I don't need it to gain my information. I have access to information you would NEVER be able to get your hands on. Since you don't take the word of someone who's had more experience while sleeping with offshore drilling than you ever had in your entire life, I have to try to find a link to corroborate what I already know to be true. Not always easy. But, as you can see, sometimes possible!

Might want to check your sources before you continue to embarrass yourself! LOL This is so much fun, keep going! I'm having a blast! You post a bunch of bull**** and with one tiny link I prove you wrong. Oh what fun it is!
 
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And I found this:

ExxonMobile Complete Drilling of Deepest Well in the World

Granted it's not in Europe as I originally thought, but deepwater horizon isn't the deepest. It may not be in 5000' of water, but its deeper than DWH.

This discussion is about offshore drilling rigs (see thread title). :doh Did you even read your link? The Z-11 well is not an offshore oil drilling rig. :doh
The multiphase Sakhalin-1 Project includes the Chayvo field which is located 5 to 7 miles (8 to 11 kilometers) offshore. The Z-11 was drilled to the Chayvo reservoir from the Yastreb rig, the world's largest land-based drilling rig.

And your assertion that

there are DOZENS of these wells in place, as deep or deeper than this,

is still wrong, isn't it? As is your assertion that the Gulf region division of the MMS was never found to be utterly and completely corrupt.

You know, you might want to check your sources before you continue to embarrass yourself! LOL This is so much fun, keep going! I'm having a blast! You post a bunch of bull**** and with your OWN link I prove you wrong. Oh what fun it is!

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No, you said it was the deepest ever drilled. I said no it wasn't a proved you wrong. The dangers don't magically disappear when you go into water hun. Sorry, just admit you were wrong. It's ok, really. I know they are definitely drilling dozens of deeper wells overseas, that's why these rigs would boogey out with a drilling moratorium. We aren't the only game on the block.

And I am done with you. It's like arguing with a brick. I am pulling myself out of this thread before one of us gets banned.
 
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Not sure that's true, but again the point is that it is meaningless. The trouble before us is off shore drilling. And that is the issue before us. If this mistake can happen again, and evidence has been presented that it does happen, then Obama has reason to hold on it, right?

Did Obama shut down mining, for the good of the people in coal country?
 
Well I am afraid I have to agree with you on this one. Deep water drilling should be strictly monitored if not out right banned, especially with the trechnology of slant drilling. Of course shallow water drilling leases and permits should be much easier to obtain.
 
No, you said it was the deepest ever drilled.

:doh

See if you can follow along... This thread is about the offshore drilling ban on vertical wells with wellheads more than 1000 feet under the surface of the water off of America's shores, not a ban on horizontal extended-reach drilling done from land in Russia. Even disregarding location, the Z-11 would still not qualify for the ban because it's not a freakin' vertical deepwater offshore drilling rig.

Vertical deepwater offshore drilling and horizontal extended-reach land-based drilling are two entirely different things. The Z-11 was the longest measured extended-reach drilling well in the world, but is not deepest offshore deepwater well. Z-11 doesn't drill through water, it was drilled through the ground underneath the Cheyvo field, which happens to be covered by water.

But wait! You're wrong again!

The Z-11 isn't the deepest horizontal extended-reach well. Neither is the Z-12. GSF Rig 127 is the deepest horizontal extended-reach well. Apparently, I have access to information you weren't able to get your hands on. ;)

The dangers don't magically disappear when you go into water hun.

No duh. In fact, the dangers dramatically increase when you go into the water, hun. That's why Obama was calling for a ban on new vertical deepwater offshore drilling leases and not on extended-reach drilling beneath the seabed. Because the results are that much more disastrous when things go wrong under water than on land.

And I am done with you. It's like arguing with a brick. I am pulling myself out of this thread before one of us gets banned.

No, you're leaving because I've proven you wrong over and over and over again, and you've simply embarrassed yourself too much to continue. Bye now!

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Did Obama shut down mining, for the good of the people in coal country?

Different situation. Why does your side always compare apples to road kill and think they are the same. The minning accident did not effect others outside the minning the industry. So, the response, which did involve some penalty, would not be the same.
 
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