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    Re: Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    You are correct .....A offshore drilling rig's operational cost is in or around 250,000 dollars a week if not more depending on the size, I hope those who support the moritorium on offshore drilling realize that these rigs will not sit around and wait for the ban to be lifted. There is a demand for these platforms around the world, and believe they will pull up stakes and leave to where the money is.
    The people who support this moratorium don't give a **** if people are put out of work.
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    Re: Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

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    Dunno, Dunno, Dunno! I know that a 6 month drilling moratorium will put a ****load of people out of work.
    A **** load of people out of a job sounds a lot better than years of cleanup and a lot better than high seafood prices and lost revenue from tourist.
    The Gulf Coast's economy has already taken a hit. How do you justify harming it eveb more?
    How do you justify the building of more rigs when these companies who are ran by people who live in wealthy modern nations not some **** hole 3rd world communist country have shown that they can not adequately close off a leak? A couple of days a week at most would be a adequate time frame to close a leak off before it does a significant amount of damage not two or three months or more.


    Unemploying tens of thousands of people sure as hell isn't going to cap the well, or clean up the spill any quicker.
    But it will prevent more oil leak disasters. If it only took a few days or even a week at most for BP to fix the leak I would be right on board with off shore oil drilling. Maybe if some other massive worst case disaster oil leak from offshore oil drilling occurs and it only takes a few days or a week at most to close off and clean the mess up that then sure allow all the offshore drilling you can. This is like asking to build nuclear power facility right after Chernobyl disaster. Right now the worst case scenario which has happened with off shore oil drilling justifies the moratorium.
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    Re: Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The people who support this moratorium don't give a **** if people are put out of work.
    You are right. Those jobs do not mean squat if the gulf and gulf coast line can be turned into a cespool and seafood prices go up, there are no tourist visiting the beaches,buying merchandise and other things.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    My husband grew up in BR, La, and lots of our friends live in the southern part of the state. With all the loss of income from the fishing industry and tourism, you guys need to be able to make up for all the loss of income into the state. What I don't understand about the whole drilling issue is why not drill inshore and within close proximity to the coast? It seems to me that this should be far safer than drilling 50 miles out in deep water, as evidenced by the recent catastrophe. I just don't see how traditional drilling could be more dangerous.
    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It does seem that way, but imo, it's insane. Why in the hell would anyone believe that drilling 5000 feet down 50 miles off shore is a good idea? I realize it's common, but it seems risky to me with my limited knowledge of drilling. Wouldn't incidents such as this one be much easier to contain and repair in significantly lower depths?

    I mean, if you're going to allow drilling, why is it significant where you drill, especially if the hazards are less inshore and in shallower offshore areas?
    I don't think folks are getting the correct message here. Only deep water drilling has been suspended, not shallow water drilling per this article from MSNBC.com. But ever since this oil spill disaster and the ensuing shakeup of Minerals Management Service (MMS), officials within the goverment haven't been so quick to issue permits and this has apparently caused some concerns and confusion.

    The President has stated the obvious concerning deep water drilling - it's easier to deal with problems from shallow water drilling rigs than it is with deep water drill rigs. As such, I can understand why the moratorium is in place. Still, I can also understand why the domestic oil industry as a whole is under heavy scrutiny. Safety concerns, particularly with deep water drilling, are now on the minds of many. Nonetheless, while I understand the economic concerns people like the governor of MS has for the Gulf Coast region as well as the nation, I think he misses the mark just alittle here. It's as if he's more concerned with the loss of jobs rather than being concerned that proper safety and containment measures are in place by these oil companies. I mean, if BP's spil containment plan was totally bogus, how many others are just as screwed up? From my perspective, I'd think a moratorium on deep water drilling was the right call. But shallow water drilling should continue.

    My hope is that this issue gets straightened out soon so that people can get back to work and that this nation doesn't see a forced increase in gas prices. But the oil industry as a whole where off-shore drilling is concerned really did need this wakeup call and so did the nation.
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    Re: Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

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    This is one of those times where I'm not quite sure if a poster is being sarcastic or not. Since I don't know you I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is a sarcastic response and worthy of a GUFFAW !!!

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    Re: Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't think folks are getting the correct message here. Only deep water drilling has been suspended, not shallow water drilling per this article from MSNBC.com. But ever since this oil spill disaster and the ensuing shakeup of Minerals Management Service (MMS), officials within the goverment haven't been so quick to issue permits and this has apparently caused some concerns and confusion.

    The President has stated the obvious concerning deep water drilling - it's easier to deal with problems from shallow water drilling rigs than it is with deep water drill rigs. As such, I can understand why the moratorium is in place. Still, I can also understand why the domestic oil industry as a whole is under heavy scrutiny. Safety concerns, particularly with deep water drilling, are now on the minds of many. Nonetheless, while I understand the economic concerns people like the governor of MS has for the Gulf Coast region as well as the nation, I think he misses the mark just alittle here. It's as if he's more concerned with the loss of jobs rather than being concerned that proper safety and containment measures are in place by these oil companies. I mean, if BP's spil containment plan was totally bogus, how many others are just as screwed up? From my perspective, I'd think a moratorium on deep water drilling was the right call. But shallow water drilling should continue.

    My hope is that this issue gets straightened out soon so that people can get back to work and that this nation doesn't see a forced increase in gas prices. But the oil industry as a whole where off-shore drilling is concerned really did need this wakeup call and so did the nation.
    There is rightful concern that this turns into the 3 mile island of the drilling industry. Three mile island essentially shut off the growth of nuclear power in the U.S. for thirty years though it caused no deaths.

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    Re: Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

    I understand that perfectly same as I understand why the "tree huggers" pushed for off-shore drilling being conducted in deeper waters. Safety. But for all the blame being placed on this legitimate concern, I place more of the blame on the oil industry AND the government.

    The oil industry for overstating, over simplifying and/or outright falsifying what they could do in deep water in the event of a disaster such as this one, and the government for turning a blind eye on regulartory oversight (issuing permits unethically and the lack of comprehensive inspections).

    My hope is this will be a wakeup call across the board for the industry, the government (local, state and federal) and the nation to do things much better than they've done until now.
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    Re: Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

    I saw two very brave, well spoken, common sense women speaking before congress. They were the wives of two men lost in the disaster. They spoke at lenghth about their losses. They also spoke about changes they would like to see. But they were adament about one change they did not want and that was ceasing of off shore drilling. They were very proud of their husbands and both men loved their jobs, and the life it allowed them to live. Both men felt they were being of service to their country by providing such a needed resourse to our country and not depending solely on foreign oil. These women do not want their husbands lives to be in vain and they feel that a ban on off shore drilling is the absolute wrong way to go, and something these men would not want to see.

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    Re: Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A **** load of people out of a job sounds a lot better than years of cleanup and a lot better than high seafood prices and lost revenue from tourist.

    How do you justify the building of more rigs when these companies who are ran by people who live in wealthy modern nations not some **** hole 3rd world communist country have shown that they can not adequately close off a leak? A couple of days a week at most would be a adequate time frame to close a leak off before it does a significant amount of damage not two or three months or more.



    But it will prevent more oil leak disasters. If it only took a few days or even a week at most for BP to fix the leak I would be right on board with off shore oil drilling. Maybe if some other massive worst case disaster oil leak from offshore oil drilling occurs and it only takes a few days or a week at most to close off and clean the mess up that then sure allow all the offshore drilling you can. This is like asking to build nuclear power facility right after Chernobyl disaster. Right now the worst case scenario which has happened with off shore oil drilling justifies the moratorium.
    Putting 20,000+ oilfield workers out of work isn't going to speed up the clean up. In case you haven't noticed, that horse is already out of the barn.

    Are you going to support a bailout of oilfield service companies, since you support the government putting them all out of business?
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    Re: Louisiana wants offshore drilling ban lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I understand that perfectly same as I understand why the "tree huggers" pushed for off-shore drilling being conducted in deeper waters. Safety. But for all the blame being placed on this legitimate concern, I place more of the blame on the oil industry AND the government.

    The oil industry for overstating, over simplifying and/or outright falsifying what they could do in deep water in the event of a disaster such as this one, and the government for turning a blind eye on regulartory oversight (issuing permits unethically and the lack of comprehensive inspections).

    My hope is this will be a wakeup call across the board for the industry, the government (local, state and federal) and the nation to do things much better than they've done until now.
    The first step, is to figur out how the well blew out, which no one really knows.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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