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    A for effort! Students march on City Hall to protest loss of MetroCards Read more: h

    The students, who were expected to come from 23 high schools, said if the city and state can't come up with the $65 million needed to fund their free MetroCards, they can't afford to get to school.
    A for effort! Students march on City Hall to protest loss of MetroCards



    Once again the spoiled brat mentality that is common among NYC kids rears its head.
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    Re: A for effort! Students march on City Hall to protest loss of MetroCards Read mor

    I actually have sympathy for some of these kids. If you're a poor kid living in an outer borough, there's no way you can get to a magnet school without the subway and there's no way your family can afford the extra $1070/year your metrocard would cost. It effectively takes away the ability of poor kids to go to schools like Stuyvesant or Bronx Science, which has always been a great equalizer.

    At the very least, the metrocards should be available to low income students traveling a good distance to public schools.
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    Re: A for effort! Students march on City Hall to protest loss of MetroCards Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I actually have sympathy for some of these kids. If you're a poor kid living in an outer borough, there's no way you can get to a magnet school without the subway and there's no way your family can afford the extra $1070/year your metrocard would cost. It effectively takes away the ability of poor kids to go to schools like Stuyvesant or Bronx Science, which has always been a great equalizer.

    At the very least, the metrocards should be available to low income students traveling a good distance to public schools.
    I have to agree. I'm not entirely certain how the MetroCard program works, but I know what a problem transportation can be if you cant afford it. Making cards available only to low-income students or perhaps upping the rates for higher income students could help offset some of the cost.


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    Re: A for effort! Students march on City Hall to protest loss of MetroCards Read mor

    Sounds like the parents should be arrested for not being able to provide for their kid. My kid's not your problem so why should your kid be my problem. It sucks, but nobody forced these people to hump so stop bugging me with their poor judgements in life.. Also, why can't the parents get involved and get a school built closer to their house. I imagine the property is cheap.
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    Re: A for effort! Students march on City Hall to protest loss of MetroCards Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by Goof Noodle View Post
    Sounds like the parents should be arrested for not being able to provide for their kid. My kid's not your problem so why should your kid be my problem. It sucks, but nobody forced these people to hump so stop bugging me with their poor judgements in life.. Also, why can't the parents get involved and get a school built closer to their house. I imagine the property is cheap.
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    Re: A for effort! Students march on City Hall to protest loss of MetroCards Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I actually have sympathy for some of these kids. If you're a poor kid living in an outer borough, there's no way you can get to a magnet school without the subway and there's no way your family can afford the extra $1070/year your metrocard would cost. It effectively takes away the ability of poor kids to go to schools like Stuyvesant or Bronx Science, which has always been a great equalizer.

    At the very least, the metrocards should be available to low income students traveling a good distance to public schools.
    I'm gonna disagree here. This mentality of "It's for the Children" leads to so much waste, so much reliance on the Gov't to live that the cycle's got to be broken, at all levels. Does it mean some kids might lose some opportunity in life, yes it does. That's just too bad. It's not the Gov'ts job to ensure such things, it's the parents. Yes, some parents won't and that's just how it is. Has anyone stopped to think that some of these kids parents don't find a way to pay for the metro card because they think it's NOT their job anymore?

    Seriously, why should they give up $1070 Right says it costs a year when OTHER people will pay for it? That's sad. If you take away the "Gov't will do it for you" you'll see people finding ways to make it happen. And that's how it should be. Again, I'm not blind to the fact that SOME parents won't give two ****s and their kid won't go to a magnet school and maybe that's a shame, but the shame isn't on US it's on the parents.
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    Re: A for effort! Students march on City Hall to protest loss of MetroCards Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
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    Once again the spoiled brat mentality that is common among NYC kids rears its head.
    Spoiled brats?

    They're being quite truthful - the reason for the free cards is to let them GET to school because the state decided that it couldn't afford to BUS everyone - they figured "why not just use the metro!" . . . . so there's no school bus option.



    The students have a right to complain - how else are they going to get where they are required to be? Buy a car? Hop a jet? Ah yes - WALK through the dangerous streets of New York because it's the safest place to be.

    The government (state or federal) need to fix this problem ASAP.

    However - Francis Lewis is actually suffering from overcrowding - the number of students who attend is that of a college campus. It's "the best" school - meaning that parents opt for that school over closer ones when deciding where to send their kiddos. If they're overlooking a closer school for attendance here - that should be considered.
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    Re: A for effort! Students march on City Hall to protest loss of MetroCards Read mor

    wonder how many have cell phones or cable tv at home Get rid of the phones, pay for the metrocard. Life is full of choices
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    Re: A for effort! Students march on City Hall to protest loss of MetroCards Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by Goof Noodle View Post
    Sounds like the parents should be arrested for not being able to provide for their kid. My kid's not your problem so why should your kid be my problem. It sucks, but nobody forced these people to hump so stop bugging me with their poor judgements in life.. Also, why can't the parents get involved and get a school built closer to their house. I imagine the property is cheap.
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    Re: A for effort! Students march on City Hall to protest loss of MetroCards Read mor

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm gonna disagree here. This mentality of "It's for the Children" leads to so much waste, so much reliance on the Gov't to live that the cycle's got to be broken, at all levels. Does it mean some kids might lose some opportunity in life, yes it does. That's just too bad. It's not the Gov'ts job to ensure such things, it's the parents. Yes, some parents won't and that's just how it is. Has anyone stopped to think that some of these kids parents don't find a way to pay for the metro card because they think it's NOT their job anymore?

    Seriously, why should they give up $1070 Right says it costs a year when OTHER people will pay for it? That's sad. If you take away the "Gov't will do it for you" you'll see people finding ways to make it happen. And that's how it should be. Again, I'm not blind to the fact that SOME parents won't give two ****s and their kid won't go to a magnet school and maybe that's a shame, but the shame isn't on US it's on the parents.
    What you don't realize is that society benefits collectively when society provides programs such as public transportation to magnet schools. The better every single kid gets educated the more likely our kids will grow up to be successes, which means they'll be less likely to be an economic burden and/or pursue criminal careers. So you can either pay for the lives of those kids through public transportation or you can pay for it through welfare or you can pay for it through the costs to incarcerate those who are getting educated now. But any way you want it, society as a collective pays for it.

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