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    Re: 74% Oppose Taxing Internet News Sites To Help Newspapers

    Here, I have a wild idea...

    If Newspapers stop being profitable and fail...let them go out of business.

    Crazy I know.

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    Re: 74% Oppose Taxing Internet News Sites To Help Newspapers

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Here, I have a wild idea...

    If Newspapers stop being profitable and fail...let them go out of business.

    Crazy I know.
    Whaaaa?? That's just bloody insanity dude. WTF?

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    Re: 74% Oppose Taxing Internet News Sites To Help Newspapers

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Here, I have a wild idea...

    If Newspapers stop being profitable and fail...let them go out of business.

    Crazy I know.
    But........ aren't they too big to fail?

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    Re: 74% Oppose Taxing Internet News Sites To Help Newspapers

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Ahhh our Rezident Gov't Apologist has come in to say that Rasmussen is lying and really the FTC isn't really considering any such thing... trust them!

    I'll go to the New York Post for more insight:
    You don't even have to go anywhere else except the report by the FTC. Starting on page 20, it discusses every item listed in the poll. Deuce just seems to be having a lapse in literacy.

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    Re: 74% Oppose Taxing Internet News Sites To Help Newspapers

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You don't even have to go anywhere else except the report by the FTC. Starting on page 20, it discusses every item listed in the poll. Deuce just seems to be having a lapse in literacy.
    No, he's our резидент administration cheer leader. Gov't can do no wrong Comrade. Any reports, polls, opinion pieces, facts, evidence, video footage... confessions that show Gov't doing something people do not like are obviously wrong OR the people are "misinformed".
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    Re: 74% Oppose Taxing Internet News Sites To Help Newspapers

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why would a poll, the NYPost, or Rasmussen be good evidence of what the FTC says?
    The report also discusses copyright laws and fair use laws, "hot news" laws, antitrust laws, tax-exempt status, tax breaks for news organizations, non-profit news organizations, donations via tax returns, university grants, loans for new nonprofit news organizations, a tax on spectrum auctions, cost-reduction methods for printed media, allowing access to already-existing government-funded computing centers, and other things that Rasmussen and OpEd Man conveniently ignore. And when the FTC does discuss all of these things (including the taxes) it discusses them in a very neutral manner. It even points out that direct funding of journalism is undesirable because of the possibility of bias.

    So yeah, you're ignoring what the FTC is saying and focusing on what other people claim the FTC is saying.
    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You don't even have to go anywhere else except the report by the FTC. Starting on page 20, it discusses every item listed in the poll. Deuce just seems to be having a lapse in literacy.
    I believe you missed a very important word, sir. Not to mention the entire premise of this post of mine. Lapse in literacy, you say?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Here, I have a wild idea...

    If Newspapers stop being profitable and fail...let them go out of business.

    Crazy I know.
    I agree. I don't really see why people think they're so important.
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    Re: 74% Oppose Taxing Internet News Sites To Help Newspapers

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Rasmussen isn't really giving a very good depiction of what the FTC report says. (This is not at all surprising.)
    http://www.ftc.gov/opp/workshops/new...discussion.pdf

    So to answer your question:
    "No because that's not what the FTC appears to believe."

    Edit to clarify: The FTC report is extremely neutral and discusses a very wide variety of topics and ideas.
    I'm sorry I fail to see how Ramussen and the FTC report are contradictory. Here's a quote from the two sentences of the Ramussen report:

    The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is considering several ways to help the struggling newspaper industry, but Americans strongly reject several proposed taxes to keep privately-owned newspapers going.
    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 84% oppose a three percent (3%) tax on monthly cell phone bills to help newspapers and traditional journalism.
    Note the word "considering."

    Now on page 20 of your link:

    ISP-cell phone tax. They suggest consumers could pay a small tax on their monthly ISP-cell phone bills to fund content they access on their digital services. A tax of 3 percent on the monthly fees would generate $6 billion annually.
    The FTC is clearly considering a tax that a large majority of Americans oppose. It hasn't definitely decided to do it but Ramussen never said that and in fact has not misrepresented what was in the report.

    That's only one example. Go through each item that Ramussen polls and you'll find it being considered in the report. Where is your problem? This is a clear poll of things that are clearly being considered. The report doesn't say that the FTC is trying to force anything or that they have made a decision, it is simply examining what the FTC is considering and showing what people think of the ideas being floated. What exactly is wrong with this? By showing how little the public supports these taxes the chances of them actually getting implemented are decreased. There are other items on that report that may or may not get more support but Ramussen didn't attack every item in the report (heck just stating poll numbers isn't much of an actual "attack" anyways) or even the report itself just the specific items it polled opinion on.

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    Re: 74% Oppose Taxing Internet News Sites To Help Newspapers

    You know, I saw on some news show, don't remember which one it was, that had the editor of Newsweek who was discussing how Newsweek was being put up for sale. Right now, what Newsweek has been doing is take their most popular print stories and put them online. He believes the future of print media is the opposite - news sites will post stories and the most popular articles will put printed at the end of the week or month as a magazine for newsstands. I happen to agree with him.

    Print media will have to adapt in order to survive, just like every other industry has to when a revolution occurs. Print media can survive the internet revolution - it just has to adapt to do so. It may be painful and it may not be pretty, but it's what it has to do to stay alive. And if it can't, it doesn't deserve taxpayer money. After all, the government doesn't subsidize rafts to be floated down canals since that went out with use of horses, carriages, railways, automobiles, and airplanes.

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    Re: 74% Oppose Taxing Internet News Sites To Help Newspapers

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    But........ aren't they too big to fail?

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    Re: 74% Oppose Taxing Internet News Sites To Help Newspapers

    But what the hell will all those pet owners use to line bird cages, hamster cages, chicken cages, or whatever? And stuff.

    I mean, obviously newspaper...paper is a vital national resource and thus a tax is of course necessary to support it's continued production
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