"you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."
Well OK I saw it but the fact that the jpost uses edited material makes me very skeptical.
I've got a question: when was the "go back to auschwitz" thing posted? It looks like all the recordings with this comment (the edited one used by the jpost and the "unedited" one posted on youtube) appeared on June 4. That's a bit strange because the unedited video showing the same warnings were in newspapers 5 days earlier, on may 31.
Could you find a source, from may 31 or june 1, that shows the "go back to auschwitz" comment?
Now, I listened to this on 31st April with picture of same men. This has totally disappeared from any of the tapes."Thanks to Marian Houk (Marian Houk (Marianhouk) on Twitter), I have learned that the Israeli army originally uploaded a video in which the same naval officer in the video above has an innocuous conversation with a ship in which the only reply from the ship is 'Negative, Negative, our destination is Gaza,'" said Abunimah.
Then there is this
Freegaza - IDF Admits It Doctored the Audio Tapes
My questioned remains unanswered. Why did the IDF on 31st May release a tape where the crew just said they were going on to Gaza as in the above quote and where is that conversation now.
George Monboit "Neoliberalism is inherently incompatible with democracy, as people will always rebel against the austerity and fiscal tyranny it prescribes. Something has to give, and it must be the people. This is the true road to serfdom: disinventing democracy on behalf of the elite."
That aside, it is perfectly legitimate to withhold acceptance of the authenticity of evidence. No fallacy required. It is absolutely legitimate to say, "I do not accept the authenticity of the recording". I wouldn't need to prove anything. This is, of course, different than saying "I hold the recording to be inauthentic", which would require proof. But, the difference is the key to understanding why the burden of proof is on the person making the positive claim, which is: "The recording is authentic".
As a result of withholding acceptance of the authenticity of the recording, one logically continues on with no additional sympathy for the Israeli position, which is the same effect as if the recording were proven inauthentic.
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