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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Are you saying that the audio I posted was not accurate?
    You are not accurate, that is what I am saying. It's okay though, you're allowed to be this way, it's only Israel.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You are not accurate, that is what I am saying. It's okay though, you're allowed to be this way, it's only Israel.
    See the post right yours.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    See the post right yours.
    I saw your post, it was covering all the bases, you slam the Flotilla for running the Blockade, and you accuse the IDF of "tampering" with audio.

    It's okay, this way you're right down the center, and no one can hate you... or take you seriously.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    HAve you guys actually listened to the unedited tape? I just did. It was a ****load more than dead air and gibberish. There were some very, very clear statements removed from the edited version.



    IMO, there is no doubt the edited version was tampered with.

    Open channel means that we don't know for sure who was adding the racist statements. We do know that the woman who, in the edited tape, claimed that they had authority form the Gazan Port Authority clearly said far more than what was in the original, edited release.
    They edited out useless stuff, unless you are asserting that they dubbed in those statements then what the hell is your point?

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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I saw your post, it was covering all the bases, you slam the Flotilla for running the Blockade, and you accuse the IDF of "tampering" with audio.

    It's okay, this way you're right down the center, and no one can hate you... or take you seriously.
    Whoever edited the audio tampered with it, yes. They very clearly took out more than just empty space and gibberish. Why did they do that? What purpose does it serve?

    How bout this. I'll use a post of yours as an example of what was done to the audio:

    They edited it to highlight a particular exchange. IT'S TAMPERING!! they are morons
    These are your words "edited" to highlight particular parts of the "exchange". I hereby decree that everything I removes was unintelligible and dead air.

    We both know that this is not true. I clearly tampered with your post to show how it is tampering to take certain parts of it and change how they were released. I removed all context.

    I changed how things went down. That's what happened in that edited audio.

    BTW, the full text of your quote was

    Tampered eh?

    Do define "Tampered" with. They edited it to highlight a particular exchange,. OH GNOES!!! IT'S TAMPERING!! AND Then, because they started out as smart devious folks. but then let the cat out of the bag by releasing the full audio!

    So for your version of reality to be correct, the Israeli's would have to be morons. Are you saying they are morons?
    I bolded the parts I included to show that I didn't change a single word of what you had written. i merely tampered with it.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    They edited out useless stuff, unless you are asserting that they dubbed in those statements then what the hell is your point?
    I'm asserting they edited out more than just "useless stuff".
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I'm asserting they edited out more than just "useless stuff".
    It seems to me, after listening to the unedited and edited versions, as if they've only cut out irrelevant information(such as the woman's port statement) and blank audio, and have only left the anti-Semitic/anti-Western remarks.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Great, proof?

    Can you break down how they "tampered" with the audio?

    Was that original cut focused on highlighting the flotilla's less then peaceful nature. Yes it was. However, since the raw audio was ALSO released, pray tell, what exactly are they trying to hide.

    Just admit it, you don't like that they HIGHLIGHTED, through editing, the reprehensible behavior of some of the flotilla respondents. That's fine, and would be an accurate assessment of what was done. Accusing the IDF of "Tampering with" the audio implies they are also idiots because they released the raw audio, which would expose "tampering".
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    It seems to me, after listening to the unedited and edited versions, as if they've only cut out irrelevant information and blank audio, and have only left the anti-Semitic/anti-Western remarks.
    It's the partial quote from the woman that kills that theory (although they may have put that in to show that it was the flotilla in question that was beign addressed). The woman's comments are not anti-western nor are they antisemitic.

    Her full comments, however, would have looked odd if places into the edited audio in their entirety. The parts where she identifies them as being a peaceful civilian ship and such.

    It is the partial inclusion that proves that they did leave more in than just the anti-western and antisemitic statements.

    I do not know, nor will I pretend to know why that was done or what benefit editing the audio was going to be.

    I do believe that releasing edited audio was a bad idea.

    Releasing the full audio, however was a good idea. It should have been released in that fashion to begin with, IMO.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Great, proof?

    Can you break down how they "tampered" with the audio?

    Was that original cut focused on highlighting the flotilla's less then peaceful nature. Yes it was. However, since the raw audio was ALSO released, pray tell, what exactly are they trying to hide.

    Just admit it, you don't like that they HIGHLIGHTED, through editing, the reprehensible behavior of some of the flotilla respondents. That's fine, and would be an accurate assessment of what was done. Accusing the IDF of "Tampering with" the audio implies they are also idiots because they released the raw audio, which would expose "tampering".
    Explain to me why the woman's express claims to being a peaceful convoy were edited out, but part of her comments were included.

    And give up the strawmen, please. I said nothing about hiding nor anything about the allegedly (open channel, remember) reprehensible behavior of the flotilla respondents.
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