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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So should I jump on defense attorneys in court when they decide to play my in car video and fast forward through the times when I am back at my car and quietly looking up info on the computer and doing nothing with their client... they do this in order to EDIT IT DOWN so we aren't wasting the courts time watching me breathe, cough, and talk to myself.
    Wait what are you trying to say here???
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Wait what are you trying to say here???
    Im saying that I see no problem with editing the damn thing down so we aren't listening to a bunch of radio silence while the IDF radio operator is scratching his nuts waiting for some sort of response.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Im saying that I see no problem with editing the damn thing down so we aren't listening to a bunch of radio silence while the IDF radio operator is scratching his nuts waiting for some sort of response.
    You quoted me that confused me a little. TY for the clarification.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Just a couple general comments. It is possible to disagree with an action taken by Israel and not be "anti-Israel" or "pro-terrorist". That type of rhetoric is not useful and will only lead to bad feelings and an easy way to dismiss what the poster says.

    Whether the audio is edited or not, we will never know for sure. Both those who supplied the audio, and those claiming it edited for content are biased, and have motive for potential dishonesty. I think it should be safe to say that if the tape is legit, the words are entirely offensive and inappropriate. I would hope that this is something we could all agree on.

    At times this thread, and others on the topic, represent what is the problem with the whole ME, Israel/ME situation. Some on both sides seem to think in extremes, see the other side as an enemy who must not be compromised with, and those who have a more central position get drowned out in the noise from those on the extreme.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just a couple general comments. It is possible to disagree with an action taken by Israel and not be "anti-Israel" or "pro-terrorist". That type of rhetoric is not useful and will only lead to bad feelings and an easy way to dismiss what the poster says.

    Whether the audio is edited or not, we will never know for sure. Both those who supplied the audio, and those claiming it edited for content are biased, and have motive for potential dishonesty. I think it should be safe to say that if the tape is legit, the words are entirely offensive and inappropriate. I would hope that this is something we could all agree on.

    At times this thread, and others on the topic, represent what is the problem with the whole ME, Israel/ME situation. Some on both sides seem to think in extremes, see the other side as an enemy who must not be compromised with, and those who have a more central position get drowned out in the noise from those on the extreme.
    Agreed, if this tape is not edited it is entirely offensive, and the person who said it should be ashamed of themselves. I also say that the anti Semitic is a bogus thing, since Arabs are semtic people as well, so no this doesn't make you anti Semitic, if you don't support Israels actions in this case. It does get very tiring when I'm labeled a anti Semitic for say I think I can't trust Israel evidence as the full truth. The thing is, Israel admitted to editing down tapes , so how can I fully trust this evidence as the truth?
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just a couple general comments. It is possible to disagree with an action taken by Israel and not be "anti-Israel" or "pro-terrorist". That type of rhetoric is not useful and will only lead to bad feelings and an easy way to dismiss what the poster says.

    Whether the audio is edited or not, we will never know for sure. Both those who supplied the audio, and those claiming it edited for content are biased, and have motive for potential dishonesty. I think it should be safe to say that if the tape is legit, the words are entirely offensive and inappropriate. I would hope that this is something we could all agree on.

    At times this thread, and others on the topic, represent what is the problem with the whole ME, Israel/ME situation. Some on both sides seem to think in extremes, see the other side as an enemy who must not be compromised with, and those who have a more central position get drowned out in the noise from those on the extreme.
    And some people couch their bias in generalities and pretend to be centrist even though they really have an angle.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And some people couch their bias in generalities and pretend to be centrist even though they really have an angle.
    And some people see things that are not really there.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And some people see things that are not really there.


    Some people know little or nothing about the subject matter and deny that which is perfectly obvious.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    They edited it down, and also released the RAW AUDIO.

    So, that's not "Tampering" with evidence. You should look up the word, and while you are at it, look up "context" and "logic".

    tam·per
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    –verb (used without object)
    1.
    to meddle, esp. for the purpose of altering, damaging, or misusing (usually fol. by with): Someone has been tampering with the lock.
    2.
    to make changes in something, esp. in order to falsify (usually fol. by with): to tamper with official records.
    3.
    to engage secretly or improperly in something.
    4.
    to engage in underhand or corrupt dealings, esp. in order to influence improperly (usually fol. by with): Any lawyer who tries to tamper with a jury should be disbarred.
    Are you stating the initial audio tape wasn't altered one bit?

    They tampered with that one, then proceeded to incorrectly assume that the ship that broadcasted those comments was the Mavi Mamara. Regardless of what YOU believe, the IDF has shown that it is not credible.

    Perhaps you should look up 'common sense' in the dictionary.

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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Some people know little or nothing about the subject matter and deny that which is perfectly obvious.
    Who... you?

    I won't deny that.

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