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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Has the tape been examined by an independent, unbiased "audio expert"? No.

    Do you suppose it will be? I'm guessing "no".
    Why would it not be examined by an independent audio expert? The audio has been released for public consumption.

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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Editing out blank air =/= doctoring by dubbing in things that were not said.

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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    If they're shooting and killing people who (allegedly) make derogatory remarks about their religion, then you are correct: they are out of control.
    Much like Islamic extremists who attempt (mostly unsuccessfully) to kill cartoonists who depict Mohammad.
    The Israelis responded to the use of deadly force with the use of deadly force.

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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris
    The Israelis responded to the use of deadly force with the use of deadly force.
    The activists responded to the use of deadly force.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The activists responded to the use of deadly force.
    Or you could try telling the truth.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The activists responded to the use of deadly force.
    Um no actually they didn't they initiated the use of deadly force by attacking the IDF weapons inspectors with metal clubs and knives when they boarded the vessel.

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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Maybe because that's just not true, it's a biased source.
    The IDF has admitted that the tape is edited(was cut short), and has released an unedited version.
    I'll repeat Redress statement who has shown the most logical response in this thread so far: As long as you have no proof that the tape is doctored or not doctored, you should stop debating about its validity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Then stop trying to prove either and carry on.
    I'll believe the tape since I know how the IDF operates, you can believe whatever you want.
    That's a huge double standard.

    You do not believe anything that comes from "biased sources", but on the other hand you say that you blindly believe the evidences given by the IDF, as if the IDF itself was not biased.

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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    That's a huge double standard.

    You do not believe anything that comes from "biased sources", but on the other hand you say that you blindly believe the evidences given by the IDF, as if the IDF itself was not biased.
    To simply dismiss the audio recording based on the source alone is an ad-hominem logical fallacy. Moreover, there is much more evidence than this audio recording which points us to the true nature of these "peace activists", the Flotilla was organized by the jihadist affiliated Islamist organization the IHH of Turkey, they owned and operated three of the ships involved including the one that attacked the weapons inspectors, we have three of the "activists" on record by Turkish newspapers stating their desire to become Shahid (martyrs), we have video/audio of the "activists" invoking battle cries against the Jews, we have close up video of one of the weapons inspectors being stabbed and another being beaten by metal pipes. Considering all of that I would suggest that the word of the IDF is far superior in this matter than that of the ringleader of the Jihadist flotilla.

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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    That's a huge double standard.

    You do not believe anything that comes from "biased sources", but on the other hand you say that you blindly believe the evidences given by the IDF, as if the IDF itself was not biased.
    No, that's not double standard, that's admitting that my words are my own opinion.
    A double standard is what you've embraced when you've given credibility to a source that comes from those same activists, while completely denying any chance that this record is indeed real.
    I choose to believe the tape because I have knowledge and experience with the way the IDF operates, and doctoring communication recordings for the sake of propaganda is absolutely not one of them.
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    Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The activists responded to the use of deadly force.
    That's bull**** and you aren't fooling anyone, they have attacked without being attacked.
    They have engaged in an assault and an attempt to murder, and have got what they deserved.
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