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    Re: Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    How about the fact that an Israeli Arab is allowed to be a member of parliment. How well have Jews and Christians done in Arab nations.
    That's exactly the message of the host: "you're an Arab in Israel, so be glad that we allow you to be here. Now don't make too much noise or we'll deport you"

    You're absolutely right when you state that there are no Jews or Christians in Arab Parliaments (well, except the defence minister of Saddam Hussein, who was Christian) but no one pretends that these Arab countries are democracies.

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    Re: Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany

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    Does that give them special rights?
    Just a fact. Does that give them less rights? America is still killing Muslims by the boatload almost daily for an attack 9 years ago.

    The position as I understand it is Israel has no right of defense as rockets continue to try to kill civilians.

    It is this cavalier attitude towards people who openly want to kill people for being offense of being Jewish that I find troublesome. Not sure I understand the morality.

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    Re: Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany

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    God will bless nations that bless Israel.

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    Re: Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Just a fact. Does that give them less rights? America is still killing Muslims by the boatload almost daily for an attack 9 years ago.

    The position as I understand it is Israel has no right of defense as rockets continue to try to kill civilians.

    It is this cavalier attitude towards people who openly want to kill people for being offense of being Jewish that I find troublesome. Not sure I understand the morality.
    No one says that Israel does not have the right to defend itself, people say that it should be done with proportionality



    One more problem is that, as several posters have said in this thread, criticism of Israel is too often dismissed as "anti-semitism". When people say that Belgian para-commandos should not have tortured a Somali kid on 1993 or that the same soldiers should have done something about the Rwandan genocide in 1994, or that there is a serious democratic deficit when all the Walloon parties team up, no one says that it is "anti-Belgianism".
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    Re: Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Heck, given the current anti-Isreal climate of the administration, Anti-semetism is back in vogue?
    Who, in this administration, is anti-semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    The USA is one of the few (if not the only one) countries that did not condemn the IDF raid
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So what?
    So what? You said the admin is anti-semitic, wouldn't the anti-semites come out against the IDF actions?
    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Why is it bad to conduct an investigation? Civilians have died, it's a serious incident, a neutral inquiry should be conducted to see if errors have been made.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    who should investigate? the UN? Please....
    So you believe the investigation to be worthless but you'd like to use the White House's backing of it to bash the admin?

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    Re: Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's anti-Israeli.
    What proof of this do you have?

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    Re: Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    No one says that Israel does not have the right to defend itself, people say that it should be done with proportionality



    One more problem is that, as several posters have said in this thread, criticism of Israel is too often dismissed as "anti-semitism". When people say that Belgian para-commandos should not have tortured a Somali kid on 1993 or that the same soldiers should have done something about the Rwandan genocide in 1994, or that there is a serious democratic deficit when all the Walloon parties team up, no one says that it is "anti-Belgianism".
    Let me take your last point first. I have not accused anyone of anti-semitism. Some like to accuse folks of doing that, no idea why.

    As to your proportionality issue. To be honest I find it almost incredible. Would the world be happier with Israel if they did not build shelters for their kids. Allowed more to get killed to even up the score.

    What level of kill to be killed is acceptable to you? Pretty silly question I think. When I see responses such as these from intelligent people I do question where they are coming from.

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    Re: Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    The USA is one of the few (if not the only one) countries that did not condemn the IDF raid

    That's good, because there's nothing to condemn.

    Turkey should have never allowed Turkish flagged ships to attempt to run the IDF blockade.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    What proof of this do you have?
    The same proof Leftists have when they say that the Arizona illegal immigration law is racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    YouTube - Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany

    And the liberals place this lady on a pedestal. LOL
    Well, the jews in my family didn't come from Germany.

    So how can they go back?
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
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