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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Obama is President and with that position comes certain benefits, such as nominating people to fill vacancies on the Supreme Court. So no, I'm not surprised about that and i expect she will be confirmed.

    What I do find interesting is that this "transparent" administration failed to disclose her true political leanings, and it took a news organization to ferret out the information. Why not just be upfront about it when she was nominated?
    Why not just be upfront about it when she was nominated?

    Because that would be CHANGE from the way that Washington is run.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I think we should all be able to agree that more information is a good thing.



    Got anything to back this up, or are you just labeling everything conservative as extreme and everything liberal as moderate?
    Would you agree that Alito is to the right of O'Connor? - As EVERYONE who knows anything about Constitutional Law does?

    The Roberts court is to the right. Stevens is unanimously considered the most liberal of the Justices. Kagen's writings suggest a pragmatist with slightly left-of-center views.

    There is currently only one member of the Court who even has the potential to surprise with his vote and that's Kennedy. If Kagen were replacing Kennedy or Thomas or Scalia, then you could argue about the Court moving to the left. She's not. She's replacing the justice who's already the furthest to the left. Thus, the court will shift slightly to the right of where it presently is: which is already pretty right. I'm not basing that on my political philosophy - I'm basing that on what most Constitutional Scholars believe to be the case.

    The non-partisan First Amendment Center likes her. firstamendmentcenter.org: analysis
    She was invited by a soldier who attended Harvard Law when she was Dean to pin him at the ceremony inducting him as head of the Massachusetts National Guard. Indeed, even though she abhorred Don't Ask, Don't Tell - she remained compliant with Solomon. Potential Court Pick Faced Dilemma at Harvard - NYTimes.com

    She's not a radical lefty at all. She's a pragmatist.

    You guys are like Shatner looking out the plane window and seeing the gremlin. You see "radicals" everywhere. It's just become ridiculous. Wolf has been cried too many times for me to really care anymore.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues - Crossroads - CBS News

    Is anyone shocked O picked a hard leftist, again, for the SCOTUS?
    Is anyone shocked Vicchio didn't read an article before posting it? Nothing in the article, quotes etc., show her to be hard-left. In fact, most of the quotes are her supporting the decision of her boss. Big deal.

    Just more partisan super- spin from a far-rightie.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Is anyone shocked Vicchio didn't read an article before posting it? Nothing in the article, quotes etc., show her to be hard-left. In fact, most of the quotes are her supporting the decision of her boss. Big deal.

    Just more partisan super- spin from a far-rightie.

    Are you suggesting that Kagan isn't a Liberal?
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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are you suggesting that Kagan isn't a Liberal?
    Liberal is a spectrum, you can be anywhere from slightly liberal to full on communist. Kagan appears just past slightly liberal as a somewhat moderate liberal. She certainly does not appear to be hard left.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Liberal is a spectrum, you can be anywhere from slightly liberal to full on communist. Kagan appears just past slightly liberal as a somewhat moderate liberal. She certainly does not appear to be hard left.
    You have to understand that absolutist thinking is pretty fundamental to the consevative mind. Sometimes I swear they literally do not see a difference between "Hey, a public option would be a good addition to the health care industry" and "I WANT TO BE JUST LIKE COMMUNIST RUSSIA."
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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are you suggesting that Kagan isn't a Liberal?
    Did you imagine Obama would nominate conservative-leaning justices?
    Did Bush nominate liberals? Was anyone surprised by Bush's choices?

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are you suggesting that Kagan isn't a Liberal?
    She's not as liberal as the Justice she's replacing, yes. Therefore, the court goes slightly more to the right. And don't be so ridiculous. Bush nominated conservatives. Clinton nominated liberals. Obama nominates liberals.

    It's the way the game works.

    Alito was further to the right from O'Connor and clearly shifted the court. Kagan isn't going to shift the court to the left; it's going to move slightly right as she is NOT as liberal as her predecessor. Thus, you're bitching about a court moving slightly more in your direction.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    She's not as liberal as the Justice she's replacing, yes. Therefore, the court goes slightly more to the right.
    And that's the talking point the DNC and the LEft want to get out. Kagan isn't that Liberal.

    No no, she did kick the Military out of HARVARD... but that's not left, no she's really more of a centrist.. yeah.

    Give it up, this lady isn't a legal scholar with interest in Constitutionality, she's an activist liberal of the worst kind and doesn't belong on the court.
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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues



    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post

    Give it up, this lady isn't a legal scholar with interest in Constitutionality, she's an activist liberal of the worst kind and doesn't belong on the court.


    I guess your masters at Fox News forgot to tell several SCOTUS Justices past and present have spoken out positively for Kagan. Justice Scalia considers her "a friend" and said:

    “Currently, there is nobody on the Court who has not served as a judge --indeed, as a federal judge -- all nine of us,” he continued. “. . . I am happy to see that this latest nominee is not a federal judge – and not a judge at all.
    LINK

    SCOTUS Justices are above the petty partisan tug-o-war that the fringe left and right too often engage in. They know that to get to the truth of complicated matters, you must challenge your own beliefs. That is accomplished by inviting a worthy intellectual to the table. The positive statements made about Kagan by current conservative Justices is unprecedented. They want her on their court. Get over it and move on.

    Have you ever tried doing that, Vicchio? Challenging your own beliefs?

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