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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

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    It will be a great day when Americans understand that supreme court justices are not politicians, but they decide whether or not rulings, and or laws are constitutional. They may have their personal views, but the constitution is their guide in all of their rulings.
    That would be nice (in bold above), but not true. If it were true we wouldn't have Roe v. Wade.
    That is a states matter.

    JFK's Supreme Court nominee stated it so:
    Justice White was against the landmark decision, Roe vs Wade, which gave women the right to abortion-on-demand. The following are random excerpts which overview his opinion:

    "I dissent. I find nothing in the language or history of the Constitution to support the Court's judgment, which fashioned and announced - with scarcely any reason or authority for its action - a new constitutional right for pregnant mothers.

    "The Court's position is that the whim or caprice of the putative mother is valued more than the life or potential life of the fetus, and guarantees the right of abortion at her request if she is able to find a medical advisor willing to undertake the procedure - even in pregnancies that pose no danger whatsoever to the life or health of the mother - but are unwanted for any one or more of a variety of reasons -- convenience, family planning, economics, dislike of children, the embarassment of illegitimacy, etc.

    "I cannot accept the Court investing mothers and doctors with a constitutional right to exterminate human life.

    "This is an exercise of raw judicial power that the Constitution does not extend to this Court. It dissentitles the people and the legislatures to govern their own affairs."
    Leftist use the term "Living and breathing" as an end around.

    It is why some justices cite foreign law too support their unConstitutional decisions.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    That would be nice (in bold above), but not true. If it were true we wouldn't have Roe v. Wade.
    That is a states matter.

    JFK's Supreme Court nominee stated it so:


    Leftist use the term "Living and breathing" as an end around.

    It is why some justices cite foreign law too support their unConstitutional decisions.

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    Where does it say in the constitution that a woman can't have an abortion?

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

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    Where does it say in the constitution that a woman can't have an abortion?

    Where does it say she can?

    This may help you

    10th amendment - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


    Not by Judicial Fiat.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

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    Where does it say she can?


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    The important part is that it doesn't say she can't.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

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    EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues - Crossroads - CBS News

    Is anyone shocked O picked a hard leftist, again, for the SCOTUS?
    Yeah, so what? We the People elected him, not the old goat and the bimbo. The winner gets to make nominations, not the losers. Deal with it or just keep on whining.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Where does it say she can?

    This may help you

    10th amendment - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


    Not by Judicial Fiat.

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    The 9th amendment "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." This leaves the option for the SCOTUS to determine which rights should be protected by the Constitution.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    I'm not shocked.

    I'm not shocked that a liberal Barack Obama would nominate a staunch liberal justice.

    I'm not shocked that the Obama Administration would once again go for hardlined ideology rather than be "post partisan" nor that he'd just go with the trend of always picking someone strongly on your ideological side when he promised "Change from POLITICS AS USUAL" nor surprised that his administration would try to paint her and depict her as moderate when he's promised a transparent government.

    I'm not shocked when Barack Obama does what Barack Obama has done throughout his presidency, and politicians have done throughout their existance.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

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    The 9th amendment "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." This leaves the option for the SCOTUS to determine which rights should be protected by the Constitution.
    Umm....What?

    That makes no sense, considering that the constitution had distinct and specific language on how to add rights to it. The 9th amendment is simply saying that because something is not listed in the constitution at that particular time doesn't necessarily mean that alone can be used as evidence that said thing isn't a right; what it does not mean is that the Supreme Court can magically decide to add new CONSTITUTIONAL rights.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

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    It will be a great day when Americans understand that supreme court justices are not politicians, but they decide whether or not rulings, and or laws are constitutional. They may have their personal views, but the constitution is their guide in all of their rulings.
    Excellet point. The supreme court is now a puppet for the right and left to inject their positions in to our counrty for decades after any president is in office. It is like our schools have become launching pads for political persuasion, not enlightenment and intellect.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: EXCLUSIVE: Documents Show Kagan's Liberal Opinion on Social Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, not so much. We have at least one representing the liberal wing right now that feels it is absolutely acceptable to look to Zimbabwe for case law here. So the constitution means little in that light to any liberal that feels this is included in stare decisis.


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