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    Re: Republicans Jump Out To Historic Lead In Gallup Generic Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Seems like the political well has been poisoned for all the parties.
    Which perfectly explains the 10+ point swing toward Republicans.
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    Re: Republicans Jump Out To Historic Lead In Gallup Generic Ballot

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    Damn son, Gallup even shows the GOP marching towards a giant rebuke of all things Obama. This is good news indeed for America.)

    As one or two other posters responding to this thread have so sensibly pointed out, what is the point of see-sawing between Republicans and Democrats when the actual problem is with the posteriors that fill these seats.

    For far too many years now, America has had one or the other lot in overall control of the house, the first lot make a mess of things (according to the Media & the Electorate) and come the next election are voted out of office, to be replaced by the opposing party, who then go on to make their mess of Governance.

    Until this type of situation changes, there will will be no difference in the way America is governed.

    As I see it serving the American people in any elected office should be viewed as an honor by those who are elected, instead it is patently seen by many such representatives (be they Senators or Representatives) as a gravy train to riches not only for them but also their families.

    The main problem with (Primarily) the American system is that a posterior having been elected more than once tends to then go on to make a lifelong career within whatever office they are elected to serve.

    TERM LIMITS should be brought in for every office requiring an election.

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    Re: Republicans Jump Out To Historic Lead In Gallup Generic Ballot

    How accurate are generics, historically, for predicting this sort of thing? A president is one thing, but we're talking about individual races. They all come down to the candidates. The GOP has a lot of ground to gain if they are to have a decent chance of regaining a majority in the Senate. (and a supermajority is impossible) I'm not as familiar with the House situation, there's just too damned many to track.
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    Re: Republicans Jump Out To Historic Lead In Gallup Generic Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    TERM LIMITS should be brought in for every office requiring an election.
    Absolutely! Political office should be a limited term of public service, not a career, and those holding that office should have as their only guide what is best for the country, not what it takes to get reelected, what is best for the party, or what the special interest money wants to buy.

    But, the reality is far from that utopia.
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    Re: Republicans Jump Out To Historic Lead In Gallup Generic Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How accurate are generics, historically, for predicting this sort of thing? A president is one thing, but we're talking about individual races. They all come down to the candidates. The GOP has a lot of ground to gain if they are to have a decent chance of regaining a majority in the Senate. (and a supermajority is impossible) I'm not as familiar with the House situation, there's just too damned many to track.
    Here's a pretty cool tool. It doesn't use historical data from generic ballot v. actual result, but takes the 2008 vote differential and lets you plug in generic ballot numbers.

    House of Representatives Swingometer - UnlikelyVoter.com

    Gallup has some historical data:

    Generic Ballot Provides Clues for 2010 Vote

    The 49%-43% number isn't a two-party figure, but we can do some rough estimates from that.

    2008 was a 55-45 two party split, so if we ended up with a 47-53 split this year, according to the swingometer that would translate into a 45 seat Republican gain, giving them control of the house 223-212. According to Gallup, that would translate into 227-208 control for the Reps.

    I'd be very surprised if it actually ends up like that.
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    Re: Republicans Jump Out To Historic Lead In Gallup Generic Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Here's a pretty cool tool. It doesn't use historical data from generic ballot v. actual result, but takes the 2008 vote differential and lets you plug in generic ballot numbers.

    House of Representatives Swingometer - UnlikelyVoter.com

    Gallup has some historical data:

    Generic Ballot Provides Clues for 2010 Vote

    The 49%-43% number isn't a two-party figure, but we can do some rough estimates from that.

    2008 was a 55-45 two party split, so if we ended up with a 47-53 split this year, according to the swingometer that would translate into a 45 seat Republican gain, giving them control of the house 223-212. According to Gallup, that would translate into 227-208 control for the Reps.

    I'd be very surprised if it actually ends up like that.
    My completely uneducated prediction is a small minority for the Democratic party in the Senate and a near-tie in the House, I'll go with in favor of the GOP because I'm a pessimist. A split congress, which at this stage of the game will be utterly incapable of passing even basic legislation!
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    Re: Republicans Jump Out To Historic Lead In Gallup Generic Ballot

    Were you around in 1994?
    The press just about had a collective heart attack then. R's didn't lose a Governorship, or seat in Congress.
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    His idea of presidential gifts to our biggest ally is a set of DVD's.
    His AG calls us cowards.
    He targets private individuals.... AIG... and they lived in fear for their safety.
    He says America shows arrogance... but he didn't have the class to honor our warriors at Arlington?
    He's spent like a drunken Marxist.
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    He said he would be transparent, but we have Sestak lingering for months.
    Gulf of Mexico... or golf in Mexico? Where is his leadership?
    Illegal aliens... he sides with Mehiko... calling the AZ law misguided.

    That's a short list of his accomplishments.

    He is incompetent and Americans have come to realize it.

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    Re: Republicans Jump Out To Historic Lead In Gallup Generic Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Were you around in 1994?
    The press just about had a collective heart attack then. R's didn't lose a Governorship, or seat in Congress.
    HillaryCare was the bitter pill... and it spawned the era of bitterness.
    After 40-years of almost absolute control of Congress, Dems were no used to losing power.

    Now we have ObamaCare... and incompetence we haven't witnessed since Carter.
    We have had terror attacks, and enemies ramping up.
    We have a WH occupant that shoots the race card first, not knowing the facts, and has to wipe egg from his face.
    We have a guy that can read a teleprompteur, but in a presidential presser sucked so bad even Libs commented on his lousy performance.
    We have a guy who treats our enemies as friends and friends as enemies.
    His idea of presidential gifts to our biggest ally is a set of DVD's.
    His AG calls us cowards.
    He targets private individuals.... AIG... and they lived in fear for their safety.
    He says America shows arrogance... but he didn't have the class to honor our warriors at Arlington?
    He's spent like a drunken Marxist.
    GM.
    Unemployment is 10%.
    He said he would be transparent, but we have Sestak lingering for months.
    Gulf of Mexico... or golf in Mexico? Where is his leadership?
    Illegal aliens... he sides with Mehiko... calling the AZ law misguided.

    That's a short list of his accomplishments.

    He is incompetent and Americans have come to realize it.

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    And yet the GOP cannot give us an alternative who would do any better.

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    Re: Republicans Jump Out To Historic Lead In Gallup Generic Ballot

    And yet the GOP cannot give us an alternative who would do any better.
    For Presidential politics we need to restrict voting for our candidates to registered Republicans only in the primaries..

    McCain (RINO) won, by his own admission the night he captured the R nomination, with the help of independents and Libs.

    Just think, we're only 18-months from the first primaries.

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    Re: Republicans Jump Out To Historic Lead In Gallup Generic Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    And yet the GOP cannot give us an alternative who would do any better.
    And yet, no they can't. Does anyone seriously think things would have been better under President McCain?

    Or even much different for that matter?

    Where do they have open primaries? In California, only Republicans can vote for the Republican candidate in the primaries, which is the only reason I don't register independent or Libertarian.
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