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    Re: ‘Fundamental Mistake’ Made Before BP Oil Spill, Lawmakers Say

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never said that BP shouldn't be held accountable. Alls I'm saying, is that we need to find out what actually happened, before we start picking a tree to hang'em from. As terrible is this is going to sound, I believe that everyone who really knows what went wrong, are dead.
    And this is the process that is ongoing. Blindly defending BP, providing absolutely nothing but your awe of them, is not very effective in actually defending them. We have provided links to eye witness testimony. You poo poo'd them. Links have been provided showing what scientists, engineers and true experienced oil rig workers testimony as to what safety shortcuts BP took and you make fun of us. When do you intend to actually acknowledge any evidence... after everything is said and done?

    Forensics is a wonderful thing.

    I suspect some of those poor guys killed in the explosion did not even know what had happened.


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    Here ya go pal. Sound familiar?
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    Are you seriously suggesting that when a well is cemented, that it's not cemented from the ground to bottom hole? For your sake, I hope that's not what you're saying.

    There are more rig hands than me on this forum that will make you look the fool on that one
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    Re: ‘Fundamental Mistake’ Made Before BP Oil Spill, Lawmakers Say

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    * Waxman's memo is here and is worth reading, as it provides detail on the various failures on the oil rig during the 24 hours prior to the explosion.

    Given the information BP provided Waxman's committee, I think it's safe to say that criminal charges will eventually be brought. And I'm not the only one who thinks this way:



    Do you think criminal charges against BP are warranted? If not, why not?
    From what I understand BP doesn't operate the oil rig, the oil rig owner does.

    So why should BP face criminal charges?
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    Re: ‘Fundamental Mistake’ Made Before BP Oil Spill, Lawmakers Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    From what I understand BP doesn't operate the oil rig, the oil rig owner does.

    So why should BP face criminal charges?
    In all fairness, BP calls the shots on the rig, although the rig is owned and crewed by the drilling company. On BP land rigs, the company man--there are two, a day and night company man--logs everything. When the bit is changed, when pipe is tripped, when casing is run. If there's a problem of one sort, or another, the company logs it and how long it took to resume operations. When the casing crews, cement crews and other non-organic service personel perform work on the rig, the company man knows about it.

    Long story short, this is BP's baby. Now, if they want to drag the service companies down with them, that's another story.
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    Re: ‘Fundamental Mistake’ Made Before BP Oil Spill, Lawmakers Say

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    And this is the process that is ongoing. Blindly defending BP, providing absolutely nothing but your awe of them, is not very effective in actually defending them. We have provided links to eye witness testimony. You poo poo'd them. Links have been provided showing what scientists, engineers and true experienced oil rig workers testimony as to what safety shortcuts BP took and you make fun of us. When do you intend to actually acknowledge any evidence... after everything is said and done?

    Forensics is a wonderful thing.

    I suspect some of those poor guys killed in the explosion did not even know what had happened.




    Here ya go pal. Sound familiar?

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    Point out where I said anything about cementing the wellbore, sir. Never said that, did I?
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    Re: ‘Fundamental Mistake’ Made Before BP Oil Spill, Lawmakers Say

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In all fairness, BP calls the shots on the rig, although the rig is owned and crewed by the drilling company. On BP land rigs, the company man--there are two, a day and night company man--logs everything. When the bit is changed, when pipe is tripped, when casing is run. If there's a problem of one sort, or another, the company logs it and how long it took to resume operations. When the casing crews, cement crews and other non-organic service personel perform work on the rig, the company man knows about it.

    Long story short, this is BP's baby. Now, if they want to drag the service companies down with them, that's another story.
    Is he just logging it or does he have a say over, whether or not, the operators are preforming their duties safely?
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    Re: ‘Fundamental Mistake’ Made Before BP Oil Spill, Lawmakers Say

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Point out where I said anything about cementing the wellbore, sir. Never said that, did I?
    This is what you said:
    Originally Posted by apdst
    Are you seriously suggesting that when a well is cemented, that it's not cemented from the ground to bottom hole? For your sake, I hope that's not what you're saying.

    There are more rig hands than me on this forum that will make you look the fool on that one.
    Defend it or explain it. Show me you know what you're talking about because this sure sounds like you don't.
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    Re: ‘Fundamental Mistake’ Made Before BP Oil Spill, Lawmakers Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Is he just logging it or does he have a say over, whether or not, the operators are preforming their duties safely?
    The answer would be most definitely.
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    Re: ‘Fundamental Mistake’ Made Before BP Oil Spill, Lawmakers Say

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    This is what you said:


    Defend it or explain it. Show me you know what you're talking about because this sure sounds like you don't.
    Here is a diagram of a cased well. Notice the cement goes all the way to the bottom...on the outside of the wellbore. Between the outter casing and the wellbore. If you still don't understand, then there's not much I can do for you, sir.

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    Re: ‘Fundamental Mistake’ Made Before BP Oil Spill, Lawmakers Say

    This diagram does an even better job of illustrating where the cement is.



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    Re: ‘Fundamental Mistake’ Made Before BP Oil Spill, Lawmakers Say

    I can't help but feel, however, that the American consumer (myself included; I finally got my license two years ago and started driving last year) is the real villain in this story.
    If their weren't a demand such obscene quantities of oil at prices affordable to almost every American, there would not be so much pressure on oil companies to cut corners everywhere they can.
    Supply is dictated by demand.

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