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    Re: Palin says Obama is in bed with big oil!

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    They're not bad, as in morally reproachable. But they are bad as in criminal negligence.
    Well, until that is proven in a court of law, I would err on the side of caution with such a blanket statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Oil companies are not intrinsically bad, but after watching the coverage of the Gulf Spill, you can't help but know that oil companies sometimes do some pretty stupid and bad things in the name of profit.
    What did they do that was "stupid?"

    They are out there exploring for and drilling oil, which I think we can all agree is vital. They were creating jobs, another good thing. They were in line (as far as we currently know) with all government rules and regulations concerning their conduct.

    Should proof of criminal negligence arise, then there is something that they did in fact do wrong, however until that occurs, I do not really see anything that they did wrong persay. It was just an unfortunate accident that is causing the devastation. Blowouts happen almost daily on rigs like this, and typically nothing goes wrong with the regulations that have been in place. If BP (and the rig operators) were following these rules, then I do not really view it as much more than a terrible accident.

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    Re: Palin says Obama is in bed with big oil!

    This is an unfortunate accident and it can and will surely happen again and again, with all this haste and rushing to off shore
    " DRILL BABY DRILL " People it is time to stop poluting and get on with the job of creating New Green Technology and clean this PLANET EARTH before it is to late to save the earth and all the life it breeds ( Human, Animal, and Plant Life ect. ect ).

    Let's stop the ignorant joking around for the sake of another dollar in the pockets of a few....Clean Energy will create jobs and pave the way to a Cleaner Planet.... This is not a Mission Impossible Sheeple !!!!

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    Re: Palin says Obama is in bed with big oil!

    Anyone know when Palin is lying? When her lips move!
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    Re: Palin says Obama is in bed with big oil!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Anyone know when Palin is lying? When her lips move!
    Lying requires you to be aware of the falsehood.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Lying requires you to be aware of the falsehood.
    Naw... she knows it. She just thinks she is getting away with lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by country View Post
    I could be wrong, but the way I understand it, all Alaska residents get kickbacks from Alaskan oil, not just people who voted for her.
    Yes- that is my understanding. It has nothing to do with who votes for whom. And it's not kickbacks, but royalty checks, as far as I know.
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    Re: Palin says Obama is in bed with big oil!

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    That's a lie:



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    You really are denying Obama is BP's top recipient of BP oil money?

    BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.






    Obama biggest recipient of BP cash - Erika Lovley - POLITICO.com
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    Re: Palin says Obama is in bed with big oil!

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You really are denying Obama is BP's top recipient of BP oil money?

    BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.






    Obama biggest recipient of BP cash - Erika Lovley - POLITICO.com

    Read more: Obama biggest recipient of BP cash - Erika Lovley - POLITICO.com

    How to lie with statistics.....

    From your own article....

    ".....Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records....."

    $77,051 to a presidential campaign that raised $650 million.... that is less than chump change, and hardly noticed. If anything, its an insult. I doubt they received much more than a DNC form letter thanking them very much..... ($77,051/29,000 employees is $2.65 per employee)

    The article also points out that $3.5 million was contributed to various federal candidates over20 years by the 30,000 or so BP employees. This works out to $6 per year given to a variety of candidates. Talk about making something out of nothing.

    I always appreciate people that back up their facts. You did. Thank you. However, a simple suggestion is that you also read and understand the facts. Yes, you nailed the fact that Obama was the largest beneficiary, but your fact misled with the significance as clearly they were not a large or even noticeable contributor. BP (and its 29,000 employees) clearly were not players in the 2008 Presidential campaign.

    Thanks for playing.
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    Re: Palin says Obama is in bed with big oil!

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Read more: Obama biggest recipient of BP cash - Erika Lovley - POLITICO.com

    How to lie with statistics.....

    From your own article....

    ".....Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records....."

    $77,051 to a presidential campaign that raised $650 million.... that is less than chump change, and hardly noticed. If anything, its an insult. I doubt they received much more than a DNC form letter thanking them very much..... ($77,051/29,000 employees is $2.65 per employee)

    The article also points out that $3.5 million was contributed to various federal candidates over20 years by the 30,000 or so BP employees. This works out to $6 per year given to a variety of candidates. Talk about making something out of nothing.

    I always appreciate people that back up their facts. You did. Thank you. However, a simple suggestion is that you also read and understand the facts. Yes, you nailed the fact that Obama was the largest beneficiary, but your fact misled with the significance as clearly they were not a large or even noticeable contributor. BP (and its 29,000 employees) clearly were not players in the 2008 Presidential campaign.

    Thanks for playing.
    LOL Try actually reading. Show me where I said they were one of the largest doners to him. Go ahead, I'd love to see where I said that.

    No one received more from BP than Obama. That's was what I said and that's the truth. Period, end of story.

    Before jumping into a conversation you might try actually reading the argument before you make the mother of all F ups. That would be assumption.

    Thanks for playing.

    What happened to that fabulous wit upsideguy?
    Last edited by texmaster; 06-08-10 at 03:23 AM.
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