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    U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    One lawsuit involves an unidentified woman in Luzerne County in northeast Pennsylvania who was given a citation which carries a maximum penalty of $300 and 90 days in jail after she yelled an offensive word at a motorcyclist who swerved close to her in October 2008.

    In a separate case a man was arrested, cited for disorderly conduct and briefly jailed after shouting a double expletive at a policeman who was writing him a parking ticket.

    The two are among at least 750 people in Pennsylvania a year who face illegal disorderly conduct charges because of the use of profanity in Pennsylvania, the ACLU said.
    ****ing douchebage ****ing cops, got ****ing nothing better to do with their ****ing time.

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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Free speech should protect even the most hienus and vile of speech, and speech one disagrees with.

    Profanity, IMO, is NO exception.

    [And to those who try to pull the ignorance card on those who use profanity, aren't you yourself being hypocritical by ignorantly assuming one is ignorant based on one instance where you encounter "profane" speech out of him or her?]
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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Profanity when used correctly is a proper tool, it shows frustration, can punctuate a comedic remark, allows people to know you are at that line where you just might kick the **** out of them......etc. etc. While I do believe in many of the tests against obscenity I do not consider profanity to be part of that test, one of my few breakings from that court decision. Besides all that though, profane words are pretty arbitrary anyway, what exactly makes **** different from caca, crap, etc. they all describe fecal matter. As well **** is the exact same thing as screw, plow, etc. so it really is a game of pure semantics anyway.
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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    ****ing douchebage ****ing cops, got ****ing nothing better to do with their ****ing time.

    U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear - Yahoo! News
    of course it's my right to ****ing swear!

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Free speech should protect even the most hienus and vile of speech, and speech one disagrees with.

    Profanity, IMO, is NO exception.

    [And to those who try to pull the ignorance card on those who use profanity, aren't you yourself being hypocritical by ignorantly assuming one is ignorant based on one instance where you encounter "profane" speech out of him or her?]
    given that police use swear words ALL THE TIME, what's wrong with a little "**** you, officer!" ?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Shouting obscenities in public should be illegal. Whatever happened to decency?

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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Shouting obscenities in public should be illegal. Whatever happened to decency?
    Time/Place/Manner. In church of course it isn't right to shout profanities, or the library, maybe even a park where there will be children and elderly citizens who shouldn't be exposed to that. But a bar, golf course, bowling alley, I think the threshold is a little longer and profanities are to be expected actually.
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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    I posted this in an older thread when we were discussing public decency laws but it fits here too:

    In general, the more balanced stance is that public decency laws are present to maintain a minimum amount of civility and decorum within public so that things that generally offend and shock the general majority of people are not forcefully presented anywhere they go. That while yes, nothing says you HAVE to take your child out into public EVER, it is rather unreasonable to expect such. And as such, it is reasonable of the government to mandate a certain level of decency, for example public displays of nudity, to allow for such reasonable levels of public activity to occur without chancing the violation of other peoples rights.

    For example, it could be thought of that taking a child to the doctor is a reasonable normal activity that I should feel "safe" doing. As such, your right to put up a billboard depicting graphic sex or run up to my car shaking your junk around at the windows is trumped by the rights of the child or even the person going about normal routine business.

    I agree, things do get very tricky when it comes down to deceny laws and censorship, but at its heart it generally comes down to a protection of rights issue more so than the government "forcing" morality through new laws. Its why a PRIVATE strip club is free to have naked women shaking their ass all they want, but don't put it out on the sidewalk where people have a reasonable expectation to not have their rights infringed upon by things the general population veiws as obscene and thus offensive.
    Essentially, by being citizens and living here we are entering into a social contract with each other where by we understand that there are acceptable standards and social norms for society and for the community in which we live, and thereby give power to law enforcement to help uphold said things. We do this in the understanding that ones rights ends where it infringes upon anothers and we recognize in part where the majority of people living within this societies expectations for public behavior are at.

    You have no more of a right to run down the street going "**** YOU" to every person you see than you have running down the street with no clothes on and your jewels bouncing around for the world to see. Our society, through its general communal understanding, views such things to be obscene and infringe upon our general expectations and right to safety while in a public place.

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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Mainstream society has the right to exclude, demean, and give you strange looks for cursing. However, if they want to use legal force they can go **** themselves. Those words are still covered by the Constitution.
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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Shouting obscenities in public should be illegal. Whatever happened to decency?
    Something that the feds should stay out of on this issue. Look at the FCC and the mess we deal with now, guess they didn't learn anything from George Carlin.
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