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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by WhyteRash View Post
    careful.. there are the few that IMO are valid rules such as "hijack" on a plane or "fire" in a theater, though otherwise those words arent considered offensive by any standard.

    and since ive brought airplanes and theaters into the commentary..

    additionally i feel that these are of the types of places where the proprietors/owners have the right to excercise their own level of moral tolerance.. such as refusing any speech that would affect other customers/patrons.
    i dont think its at all morally appropriate for someone to be cussing up a storm at a playpark full of children, nor in contrast dont feel its appropriate for someone to be reading religious scripture for all to hear while im paying for a good meal at a four star restaurant.

    i remember a time when you would not hear the word "damn" on TV(showing my age a bit), but now its a regular adjective/verb/etc. i wonder where we'll be in another 30 years.
    its the level of tolerance as time goes on i suppose. often an inch given, but a mile is taken..
    Common sense and free will is a heck of a thing. If somebody is swearing around my kids at the park, I walk over and tell them to shut the **** up. If you are bothered by words on TV, change the channel.
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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    AND swearing eases pain better than replacement words.

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    Yeah, it works that way. I used several god damns (CAPS, of course) today when something went wrong, and it did take some of the edge off. It's a stress reliever, to curse over a problem or frustration. It works, for me anyway.
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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by WhyteRash View Post
    careful.. there are the few that IMO are valid rules such as "hijack" on a plane...
    Reactionary, irrational response to 9-11, IMO

    Quote Originally Posted by WhyteRash View Post
    or "fire" in a theater
    Or rather, IF THERE IS NO FIRE - since it can cause panic, stampedes, injuries, etc. If there was a fire, you'd WANT somebody to yell "fire!," lest you wanted to end up hickory smoked.
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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Shouting obscenities in public should be illegal. Whatever happened to decency?
    I do not think this is about decency.

    I rather imagine it is about constitutional rights.

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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    They're not my standards. They're our standards,
    Then let society deal with it in a less coercive manner. May I get kicked out of an establishment, but I fail to see how semantics manage to harm others

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    or at least they were before we decided to throw our culture in the garbage can of liberalism.
    How does cursing throw our culture into the garbage can?
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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Then let society deal with it in a less coercive manner. May I get kicked out of an establishment, but I fail to see how semantics manage to harm others
    The law is by nature a coercive instrument. It upholds the standards by which civilized people live. It doesn't matter whether foul language "harms" others or not because decent, civilized people should be able to go out in public without being exposed to obscenity.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    How does cursing throw our culture into the garbage can?
    It isn't cursing. It is the erosion of civilized standards promoted by people who do not believe in those civilized standards.

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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The law is by nature a coercive instrument.
    I was referring to society outside of the law. People are more than welcome to conduct informal sanction on people who stupidly yell things obscenities in public.

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    It upholds the standards by which civilized people live. It doesn't matter whether foul language "harms" others or not because decent, civilized people should be able to go out in public without being exposed to obscenity.
    If it doesn't harm them, then why is it the government's business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    It isn't cursing. It is the erosion of civilized standards promoted by people who do not believe in those civilized standards.
    If our standards are so strict that they get caught up in semantics, then they should leave those words alone.
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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    If it doesn't harm them, then why is it the government's business?
    Because it is the government's business to uphold societal standards. This is as important, if not moreso, than its other functions.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    If our standards are so strict that they get caught up in semantics, then they should leave those words alone.
    It isn't semantics. It's an issue of having respect for the people around you.

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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The law is by nature a coercive instrument. It upholds the standards by which civilized people live. It doesn't matter whether foul language "harms" others or not because decent, civilized people should be able to go out in public without being exposed to obscenity.



    It isn't cursing. It is the erosion of civilized standards promoted by people who do not believe in those civilized standards.
    A just government will treat all of its adult members as responsible moral agents. If the government denies this responsibility the government is insulting its own citizens. No majority or official has the right to withold an opinion from us for the reason that we are not fit to hear it.

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    Re: U.S. rights group sues to protect right to swear

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    A just government will treat all of its adult members as responsible moral agents. If the government denies this responsibility the government is insulting its own citizens.
    Citizens demonstrate that they are responsible moral agents by obeying the laws of a just government. If the citizens refuse to behave responsibly, it is the government's obligation to correct them.

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