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    Re: Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    My initial take on the story was the same as yours. ("What could that principle have been THINKING???!!")

    But after reading the full article the story took a bit different flavor. Not saying that the field trip wasn't handled clumsily. It was. But the goal of the trip was apparently not to give the black students an academic bump to catch up with the white students. There is no indication that the participants were given a "science lecture" or any such presentation. Appears the trip was to take a bunch of black kids to meet a black rocket scientist to try and stress setting high limits for themselves (as black kids)

    Again. Poorly handled. But not quite as racist/diabolical as it seems to be getting conveyed.....


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    I have little difficulty imagining reactions if race roles were reversed..."racist/diabolical" or "poorly handled" would be the among the milder descriptions.

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    Re: Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school

    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    I have little difficulty imagining reactions if race roles were reversed..."racist/diabolical" or "poorly handled" would be the among the milder descriptions.
    Have no doubt. Sharpton and crew would be there spewing before the last kid got off the bus.

    But I think it says more about the polarizing political correctness that has evolved in our society than anything else. In this case it sounds like the school principle had noble intentions. But he got burned by the appearance of how it all came off.....


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    Re: Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school

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    Re: Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Have no doubt. Sharpton and crew would be there spewing before the last kid got off the bus.

    But I think it says more about the polarizing political correctness that has evolved in our society than anything else. In this case it sounds like the school principle had noble intentions. But he got burned by the appearance of how it all came off.....


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    As he should have.

    His actions seem to further illuminate and reinforce largely ignored (by the media, and a certain political persuation) conscious or sub-conscious race "protectionist" attitudes by some who are given a near complete pass.... attitudes...even the mere suggestion or hint of attitudes that many others are falsley accused or excoriated for political gain.
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    Re: Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Have no doubt. Sharpton and crew would be there spewing before the last kid got off the bus.

    But I think it says more about the polarizing political correctness that has evolved in our society than anything else. In this case it sounds like the school principle had noble intentions. But he got burned by the appearance of how it all came off.....


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    One of the problems that I do feel minority children have is a lack of positive roll models who "look like them". The truth is, a black kid is more likely going to respond positively to a black person who tells them "you can do it, because I did it". This is starting to change, with Obama, and before him Condeleeza Rice, and before her Colin Powell, but I do understand the desire to take black kids out to meet successful black people and think it is a good thing.

    However, the easier and more appropriate way to handle it is to take all the students out to meet the person. It accomplishes the desired end, without creating unwanted divisions.
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    Re: Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school

    I think this thread tried to put a spin on what really happened. It seems that they had good intentions behind this trip. It was to inspire black children by having them meet a black rocket scientist. Honestly, I think this trip was a good thing. I don't believe the school was racially motivated in only having black kids attend the field trip. They had good intentions, but they acted stupidly by excluding everyone but black students. It was a racist action, but not necessarily motivated by racism. I do think that blacks are discouraged from joining careers in science. The media and stereotypes dictate that there are no black scientists and that blacks can't be smart. I'm all for this type of field trip, because I do believe blacks are discouraged from fields in science and that it's great to show them African Americans who are geniuses and have jobs in the scientific realm.

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    Re: Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    One of the problems that I do feel minority children have is a lack of positive roll models who "look like them". The truth is, a black kid is more likely going to respond positively to a black person who tells them "you can do it, because I did it". This is starting to change, with Obama, and before him Condeleeza Rice, and before her Colin Powell, but I do understand the desire to take black kids out to meet successful black people and think it is a good thing.

    However, the easier and more appropriate way to handle it is to take all the students out to meet the person. It accomplishes the desired end, without creating unwanted divisions.
    I agree. The whole thing should have been handled nonchalantly, without fanfare, with the whole class going to see this cool rocket scientist. I'm sure everyone would have noticed his race without them pointing it out to them. Instead they treated the kids like a bunch of disadvantaged cripples going to see another cripple who actually made something of himself

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    Re: Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I agree. The whole thing should have been handled nonchalantly, without fanfare, with the whole class going to see this cool rocket scientist. I'm sure everyone would have noticed his race without them pointing it out to them. Instead they treated the kids like a bunch of disadvantaged cripples going to see another cripple who actually made something of himself
    I don't think they did that either. There is no reason to overstate the case. Was poor judgment used? Yes. Was it a big deal? Nah.
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    Re: Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think they did that either. There is no reason to overstate the case. Was poor judgment used? Yes. Was it a big deal? Nah.

    If you read the article, when they got back the rest of the class booed them. Yes, it was a big deal. Don't you remember what it was like back in school dear?

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    Re: Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think they did that either. There is no reason to overstate the case. Was poor judgment used? Yes. Was it a big deal? Nah.
    Nah...it's never a big deal for lefties... unless white kids and white teachers were to exclude black kids or little girls from participating on a field trip.

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