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    Re: Buchanan: With Kagan, too many Jews on Supreme Court bench

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Basically, the Jewish people seem to be highly gifted, as a whole. Here are some other statistics indicating that they are over represented in many prestigious fields of endeavor:

    Jewish Statistics
    To even know those stats feels a tad anti-Semitic. Someone who went to the trouble to find all that out... just sayin'

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    Re: Buchanan: With Kagan, too many Jews on Supreme Court bench

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    As usual, Raw Story is twisting the facts to make it seem much worse than it is. If you read his statement in context, he's not saying that there are "too many jews" on the SC, but simply that it's disproportionately populated by jews, leading other groups to be underrepresented.

    We've heard the exact same things said by people who said the court was disproportionately white, disproportionately male, or disproportionately catholic. No one seemed to get riled up over those statements, so I'm not sure why this is a big deal.
    He didn't even say that it was disproportionately populated by Jews. He merely said that the Democrats weren't living up to their own standards of diversity.

    This is a strawman thread.
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    Re: Buchanan: With Kagan, too many Jews on Supreme Court bench

    Mpg he is a known Racist, and he did defend Hitler actions during WAR WORLD 2. I mean come on know he is saying we don't live up too diversity which is kind of mute point coming from a racist.........

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    Re: Buchanan: With Kagan, too many Jews on Supreme Court bench

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    No, it's absolutely not. "Too many" is a normative statement, while "disproportionately populated" is a factual statement.

    Again, why doesn't anyone bat an eye when people point out that there are disproportionate numbers of whites, men, and Catholics on the court? Could it be because people such as yourself don't want to score political points against the speakers of those statements?

    I don't particularly like Pat Buchanan and don't give a **** about the other things he's said. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy on display, regardless of who's being smeared.
    Only we know why he said there was a disproportionate number of Jews on the court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Buchanan through WND
    Are liberals anti-WASP?

    "A chorus of black commentators and civic leaders has begun expressing frustration over (Elena) Kagan's hiring record as Harvard dean. From 2003 to 2009, 29 faculty members were hired: 28 were white and one was Asian-American."

    CNN pundit Roland Martin slammed "Kagan's record on diversity as one that a 'white Republican U.S. president' would be criticized for."

    This is an excerpt from the Washington Post about the rising anger in a black community, which voted 24-1 for Obama, that one of their own was once again passed over for the Supreme Court.

    Not since Thurgood Marshall, 43 years ago, has a Democratic president chosen an African-American. The lone sitting black justice is Clarence Thomas, nominated by George H. W. Bush. And Thomas was made to run a gauntlet by Senate liberals.

    Indeed, of the last seven justices nominated by Democrats JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, one was black, Marshall; one was Puerto Rican, Sonia Sotomayor. The other five were Jews: Arthur Goldberg, Abe Fortas, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Stephen Breyer and Elena Kagan.


    If Kagan is confirmed, Jews, who represent less than 2 percent of the U.S. population, will have 33 percent of the Supreme Court seats.

    Is this the Democrats' idea of diversity?

    Don't miss Buchanan's classic book "The Death of the West"

    But while leaders in the black community may be upset, the folks who look more like the real targets of liberal bias are white Protestants and Catholics, who still constitute well over half of the U.S. population.

    Not in living memory has a Democratic president nominated an Irish, Italian or Polish Catholic, though these ethnic communities once gave the party its greatest victories in the cities and states of the North.

    What happened to the party of the Daleys, Rizzos and Rostenkowskis?

    And not in nearly half a century has a Democratic president nominated a white Protestant or white Catholic man or woman.

    The last was Byron "Whizzer" White, the all-American running back from the University of Colorado, nominated by his friend Jack Kennedy. White cast one of the only two votes against Roe v Wade.

    What of the record of Republican presidents?

    Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford made seven nominations. All were white Protestant males: Warren Burger, Clement Haynsworth, Harrold Carswell, Harry Blackmun, Lewis Powell, William Rehnquist and John Paul Stevens.

    The diversity Nixon sought was first to put a Southerner on the court. He succeeded in his third try, with Powell. And he sought to put the first woman on the court, but pulled back from nominating Judge Mildred Lillie of California when the American Bar Associated rated her unqualified.

    With Ronald Reagan and Bush I came Republican diversity.

    Reagan's first choice was Sandra Day O'Connor, the first woman ever nominated. His second was Antonin Scalia, the first Italian-American. When his third nominee, Robert Bork, a Protestant, was rejected, Reagan chose Bork's Jewish colleague on the U.S. Appellate Court for the District of Columbia, Douglas H. Ginsburg. When Douglas Ginsburg was pulled because of a marijuana incident in college, Reagan chose the Irish Catholic Anthony Kennedy.

    George H. W. Bush picked David Souter, a Protestant from New Hampshire, and Clarence Thomas, the second African-American to sit. George W. Bush chose John Roberts, a Catholic; Harriet Miers, the first Evangelical Christian of our era; and Sam Alito, the second Italian Catholic.

    If Kagan is confirmed, the Court will consist of three Jews and six Catholics (who represent not quite a fourth of the country), but not a single Protestant, though Protestants remain half the nation and our founding faith.

    If Kagan is confirmed, three of the four justices nominated by Democratic presidents will be from New York City: Kagan from the Upper West Side, Sotomayor from the Bronx, Ruth Bader Ginsburg from Brooklyn. Breyer is from San Francisco.

    What kind of diversity is this either in geography or life experience?

    While Sotomayor went to Yale Law School, the other three liberals went to Harvard, though Ruth Bader Ginsburg graduated from Columbia. Seems a fairly narrow range for a party that once claimed to be America's party.

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg tied for first in her class at Columbia, but neither Obama nominee is academically distinguished. Sotomayor called herself an "affirmative action baby" who, at Princeton, was urged to read children's books in the summer to improve her reading and writing skills. Kagan never served as a judge, never litigated a case before being named solicitor general, never wrote a book or anything else anyone has turned up that manifests real legal scholarship.

    From her Princeton thesis on the sad demise of 20th-century socialism, to her tears at the defeat of the radical liberal Senate candidate Elizabeth Holtzman in 1980, to her hostility to the U.S. military on the Harvard campus while dean of the law school, Kagan has revealed herself to be one more Ivy League leftist anxious to use a lifetime seat on the court, winning the plaudits of her peers by imposing her ideology on a nation that has never voted for it.

    Conservatives will not soon get another opportunity like this to take down Ivy League pretensions to represent and rule America.
    Now I'm not saying that Buchanan is being his old racist self but one read of this article and we get the usual right wing complaints from racists apologists.

    - The constant reminders of how Republicans broke some racial boundaries first.

    - Bringing up Nixon's Southern Strategy.

    - The reminder that Democrats use to have a stronger presence among those of European descent.

    - Bringing up the few token times in the last 50 they've tried to reach out for the black vote.
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    Now I'm not suggesting that Republicans are racist by a long stretch but why is it so easy for Republicans to bring up these little facts every time they want to bring up how 'racist' Democrats are?

    - Can you imagine if a Liberal commentator talked about how Republicans use to be strongly affiliated WITH black populations until about 50 years ago?

    - Can you imagine if a Liberal commentator said that while Storm Thurmond was a Democrat who opposed desegregation, he ended up being a Republican who still supported segregation in his death bed?

    - Can you imagine if somebody from the left with a fan base half as big as that of Pat Buchanan said Nixon's only legacy as President today was making racist Democrats into racist Republicans?

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    Sure Pat Buchanan may have some sort of point - but let's not forget why he's trying to make that point.
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    Re: Buchanan: With Kagan, too many Jews on Supreme Court bench

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post

    - Can you imagine if a Liberal commentator talked about how Republicans use to be strongly affiliated WITH black populations until about 50 years ago?

    - Can you imagine if a Liberal commentator said that while Storm Thurmond was a Democrat who opposed desegregation, he ended up being a Republican who still supported segregation in his death bed?

    - Can you imagine if somebody from the left with a fan base half as big as that of Pat Buchanan said Nixon's only legacy as President today was making racist Democrats into racist Republicans?
    I can imagine all of those things, and I can't imagine giving a ****. None is particularly controversial, and many have been said in one way or another.
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    Re: Buchanan: With Kagan, too many Jews on Supreme Court bench

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I love how Paleocons are always bitching and whinning about identity politics but yet Buchanan is bitching about the fact she's a jew. Then again it is Pat Buchanan so I really shouldnt be that surprised. Its not like there are other things to complain about; anti-second amendment, not too keen on the first to name two. Stay classy asshole

    Buchanan: With Kagan, too many Jews on Supreme Court bench | Raw Story
    sometimes you feel like a nut.....!

    it's always too bad when buchanan says something like this, because on some issues i agree with him. i never would have voted for him, nevertheless, i kinda like him.

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    Re: Buchanan: With Kagan, too many Jews on Supreme Court bench

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Mpg he is a known Racist, and he did defend Hitler actions during WAR WORLD 2. I mean come on know he is saying we don't live up too diversity which is kind of mute point coming from a racist.........
    I don't know enough about him to say whether or not he is a racist, but there is nothing racist about what he's saying here. The OP is dishonest.
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    Re: Buchanan: With Kagan, too many Jews on Supreme Court bench

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    sometimes you feel like a nut.....!

    it's always too bad when buchanan says something like this, because on some issues i agree with him. i never would have voted for him, nevertheless, i kinda like him.
    He is a old relic of the Nixon era and the Cold War, the only view his is agreeable on is his foreign policy. Hes anti-free trade, pro-drug war and a social statist.
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    Re: Buchanan: With Kagan, too many Jews on Supreme Court bench

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    sometimes you feel like a nut.....!

    it's always too bad when buchanan says something like this, because on some issues i agree with him. i never would have voted for him, nevertheless, i kinda like him.
    Yea, when he screws up, he puts his foot in his mouth all the way up to his knee.
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    Re: Buchanan: With Kagan, too many Jews on Supreme Court bench

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post


    So when Buchanan says that Jews are disproportionately represented on the SC, that's bigotry, but when you say "there are too many catholics on the SC," that's not?
    First, you should stop lying about what I've said.

    Go find my post where I claimed Buchanan said something bigoted.

    You can't because you're lying about me saying that.

    OK now you can apologize for lying about what I said.

    I ****ing hate it when people lie about me.

    DON'T do it again.
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