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    Re: Mexican Students Knock U.S. Flag to the Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Golly...WHY ARE we talking about immigration in this country...hmmm....I just...I just cant imAGINE it has ANYTHING to do with Arizona...hmmm...
    We talk about a lot in this country. But it all does not have to be in one thread.
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    Re: Mexican Students Knock U.S. Flag to the Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Again, off topic. Start another thread on insects if you want to talk about them. Did you even read the OP? Because your responses look like you are in another thread.
    Why are we talking about any of this....Im stumped...really. I cant IMAGINE why those fine citizens were out in the street holding an anti-enforcement walkathon...

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    Re: Mexican Students Knock U.S. Flag to the Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    We talk about a lot in this country. But it all does not have to be in one thread.
    Come on...you can do better than that...WHY are we having these discussions? What do they revolve around. Or...prior to the passage of the AZ law how many threads did we have on 'racist' enforcement of federal laws.

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    Re: Mexican Students Knock U.S. Flag to the Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Why are we talking about any of this....Im stumped...really. I cant IMAGINE why those fine citizens were out in the street holding an anti-enforcement walkathon...
    We all know why. However, that doesn't mean they are illegal. Tons of people here legally don't like the law.

    Personally, I think it's a non-issue because I don't think the law is going to be around for very long.
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    Re: Mexican Students Knock U.S. Flag to the Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    We all know why. However, that doesn't mean they are illegal. Tons of people here legally don't like the law.

    Personally, I think it's a non-issue because I don't think the law is going to be around for very long.
    Actually if you look at my first post on this thread I believe i said something to the effect that i highly doubt anyone in the video could find mexico on a map. I think they are just a bunch of assholes protesting for the sake of protesting about enforcement of a law they dont understand and dont really give a damn about except someone has told them it was somehow a violation of their 'rights.'

    What is your objection to the law...just out of curiosity. And instead of the law...what would you have Arizona do?

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    Re: Mexican Students Knock U.S. Flag to the Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Actually if you look at my first post on this thread I believe i said something to the effect that i highly doubt anyone in the video could find mexico on a map. I think they are just a bunch of assholes protesting for the sake of protesting about enforcement of a law they dont understand and dont really give a damn about except someone has told them it was somehow a violation of their 'rights.'

    What is your objection to the law...just out of curiosity. And instead of the law...what would you have Arizona do?
    Enforce the laws already on the books.

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    Re: Mexican Students Knock U.S. Flag to the Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What is your objection to the law...just out of curiosity. And instead of the law...what would you have Arizona do?
    I never said I had an objection to the law. I just don't think it will survive. The biggest factor is going to be jurisdiction. Immigration Law is a Federal matter, so I think (just an opinion) that the first challenge to the law will result in it being overturned. And that challenge will happen the day the first person gets arrested. When you throw in the inevitable racial profiling cases, overcrowded local jails, overtaxed court system, boycotts and protests I think they will just give up. Of course we'll see what happens and I may be wrong, but I think this law is toast.
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    Re: Mexican Students Knock U.S. Flag to the Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Enforce the laws already on the books.
    I agree...and I think it is not a little comical the leftists continue to bitch about the state of Arizona passing this law and accusing them of being both racists and engaging in profiling...and instead want the INS to enfore federal law...and of course....they ummmm...investigate...errrr...people...that...ummm ...look like...ummm...mexicans...

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    Re: Mexican Students Knock U.S. Flag to the Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    I never said I had an objection to the law. I just don't think it will survive. The biggest factor is going to be jurisdiction. Immigration Law is a Federal matter, so I think (just an opinion) that the first challenge to the law will result in it being overturned. And that challenge will happen the day the first person gets arrested. When you throw in the inevitable racial profiling cases, overcrowded local jails, overtaxed court system, boycotts and protests I think they will just give up. Of course we'll see what happens and I may be wrong, but I think this law is toast.
    Well...its now a state law...and most pf the people that have examined it have said it isnt illegal. But we'll see. And of course...jurisdiction really doesnt come into play when those that are SUPPOSED to enforce it never bother to...

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    Re: Mexican Students Knock U.S. Flag to the Ground

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Well...its now a state law...and most pf the people that have examined it have said it isnt illegal. But we'll see. And of course...jurisdiction really doesnt come into play when those that are SUPPOSED to enforce it never bother to...
    Well it actually does come into play. That's the point. We have separation of powers here and immigration is a Federal issue just like murder is a state one. If your state decided to stop prosecuting murder the Feds could not step in and do it. They have no jurisdiction unless they can make a civil rights case out of it. And even that isn't a murder charge. The Feds not enforcing the law makes no difference here.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/04/23/...onstitutional/

    But assume Arizona can arrest someone with no papers. Then what? They cannot deport them. It's not legal. They can't fill their jails with them. That's impossible. So they get let go. In the end not much is going to happen here.
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