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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Pimp Slaps Infamous Douche Bag Al Sharpton

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but it is not necessarily so
    using your "logic" it would be reasonable to then incarcerate someone who had not slept recently and was entering a diabetic coma
    Strawman.... No one is talking about incarcerating someone on suspicion of anything, just checking them out if “probable cause" is present. Please read the law so you will know what is being discussed.

    license? but what of the passengers who would then be subject to the LEO scrutiny. must they provide personal identity to show they are American citizens and what form of identity would be required under the law for that

    keep trying
    Another strawman. A police officer can't under any circumstances demand identification from a passenger in a traffic stop.... he can ask for ID, but you are free to decline and he is SOL.

    It’s obvious to me that you have no desire to discuss this topic rationally, you just don’t like the idea of any State kicking your voter base out… that much is obvious.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Pimp Slaps Infamous Douche Bag Al Sharpton

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but it is not necessarily so
    And I never said it was "necessarily so". The criteria we are using is a "reasonable suspicion", not an "absolute certainty". You need to stop misrepresenting my position.

    using your "logic" it would be reasonable to then incarcerate someone who had not slept recently and was entering a diabetic coma
    No, that would be your misrepresentation of my logic.

    license? but what of the passengers who would then be subject to the LEO scrutiny. must they provide personal identity to show they are American citizens and what form of identity would be required under the law for that

    keep trying
    Keep trying? I've already refuted your assertions about "concocting reasons", arbitrary stops and detainments, and "targeting" Hispanics; now I'm just trying to help you understand the law, but I suspect you already understand it and are just trying to rationalize your misrepresentation of it.

    Maybe we need to review the specific provision again:

    FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE, WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).

    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
    It plainly states that determinations of immigration status can ONLY occur incident to "lawful contact" AND where there is "reasonable suspicion" that the person is an illegal alien. You, however, continually use examples of unlawful contact as a pretense to such determinations, which is why your position is either purposely dishonest in regards to or willfully ignorant of the meaning of this law. You also refuse to admit that not having proper ID and being ignorant of one's home address is cause for "reasonable suspicion" that a person MIGHT be an illegal alien.

    Clearly, you are either being obtuse or dishonest.

    This law does not permit LEOs to arbitrarily stop and detain anyone for any reason, no matter how much you want to believe it does. Stop misrepresenting my position and stop spreading misinformation about this law.

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Pimp Slaps Infamous Douche Bag Al Sharpton

    JustaB.:

    You are right in Arizona there are a large population of hispanics that are American citizens or here legally. The news has stated that there is estimated >400,000 illegals and +1,000 entering the US/Arizona daily.

    You don't like the new law. So help us in AZ out. So how would you go about identifying those that have entered illegally into the US from Mexico? Or do you want us to just look away?

    I have been in Az since 89 and NM before that. When I was working I had contact with the public, sometimes in town and sometimes out on forest/public lands. While not 100% accurate, over time you can see how people react and tell if they were in the US legally or illegally.

    IMO, the Feds need to secure the border and stop the illegal crossing. The Feds need to manage/control legal immigration.
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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Pimp Slaps Infamous Douche Bag Al Sharpton

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    YouTube- Sheriff Joe Arpaio Pimp Slaps Infamous Douche Bag Al Sharpton!

    Obama's spokesman and conceirge to The Kummunidy.
    The fool(s).

    With Obama, don't we have nothing more than Sharpton with a "cleaner" delivery?

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    I was disappointed by the video, I was hoping that it was an actual pimp slap. I wish all law enforcement officials were like Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Pimp Slaps Infamous Douche Bag Al Sharpton

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I was disappointed by the video, I was hoping that it was an actual pimp slap. I wish all law enforcement officials were like Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
    I can't agree with that. I think he's one of the most wasteful LEO's in this country. It all makes for good sound bytes but, in practice, it's anything but fiscally conservative.

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Pimp Slaps Infamous Douche Bag Al Sharpton

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post

    With Obama, don't we have nothing more than Sharpton with a "cleaner" delivery?

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    WINNER!! That statement is the biggest piece of ignorant crap of the day...

    And more veiled (only slightly) racism from a far-rightie...

    And even people on the right find some of Sheriff Joe's methods distasteful and possible illegal...

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Pimp Slaps Infamous Douche Bag Al Sharpton

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I can't agree with that. I think he's one of the most wasteful LEO's in this country. It all makes for good sound bytes but, in practice, it's anything but fiscally conservative.
    What has he done that is wasteful? The inmates stay in tent cities, work in chain gangs,wear pink underwear, no air conditioning, eat only bologna sandwiches and water, the tvs only has two channels(last I checked, this may have changed). How are those things more expensive? Are those bologna sandwiches and water made with Boars Head brand bologna on Brioche and Gleneagles water? Are those pink boxers made of out silk? Are those tvs in jail the new Samsung 3d tvs? Do they strap gold ball and chains to the inmates working in chain gangs? Is he using select comfort beds for the inmates? Are those state of the art tents he is using to house those inmates? Or is he lying about the tent cities, bologna sandwiches,chain gangs and so on?
    Last edited by jamesrage; 05-07-10 at 08:38 PM.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Pimp Slaps Infamous Douche Bag Al Sharpton

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What has he done that is wasteful?
    His civil rights violations and deviations from standard penal practices in the US.

    The inmates stay in tent cities, work in chain gangs,wear pink underwear, no air conditioning, eat only bologna sandwiches and water, the tvs only has two channels(last I checked, this may have changed). How are those things more expensive? Are those bologna sandwiches and water made with Boars Head brand bologna on Brioche and Gleneagles water? Are those pink boxers made of out silk? Are those tvs in jail the new Samsung 3d tvs? Do they strap gold ball and chains to the inmates working in chain gangs? Is he using select comfort beds for the inmates? Are those state of the art tents he is using to house those inmates? Or is he lying about the tent cities, bologna sandwiches,chain gangs and so on?
    I fully believe he does exactly as he claims. I also fully believe that the law suits defending his showboating cost far more than just putting the inmates in jails that meet the accepted standards.

    We already went through this before. You failed to defend him then and you will fail now. Let's just enjoy the fact that he wailed on Sharpton for a bit.

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Pimp Slaps Infamous Douche Bag Al Sharpton

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    His civil rights violations and deviations from standard penal practices in the US.
    What civil rights violations and how does that equate to more financial waste on his part? OOh they don't have air condition waa, they have to wear pink underwear boo hoo, they get to eat only bologna sandwiches waa, they have to work in chain gangs oh the horror.

    How does his deviations from standard penal practices cost more on his part? Does it cost more to feed inmates only bologna sandwiches, house inmates in tent cities and run chain gangs? Surely pink dye for some boxers shouldn't cost much.


    I fully believe he does exactly as he claims.
    I hope he does do what he claims.


    I also fully believe that the law suits defending his showboating cost far more than just putting the inmates in jails that meet the accepted standards
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    Lawsuits by scumbag and scumbag sympathizers does not mean he is not doing his job right. Nor does it mean he is the one costing the money.

    You failed to defend him then and you will fail now.
    I did not fail to defend him.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 05-07-10 at 09:06 PM.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Pimp Slaps Infamous Douche Bag Al Sharpton

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Lawsuits by scumbag and scumbag sympathizers does not mean he is not doing his job right. Nor does it mean he is the one costing the money
    There you go with the "scumbag and scumbag sympathizer" michael savage impersonation and I just stop listening to you. We're done here.

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