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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Uhm, I'm shocked that's what you compare this too.... Come now drop your partisanism. the dood screwed the pooch.
    What's even more shocking is that this guy was also an assistant secretary at U.S. Fish & Wildlife. First of all, how does one guy do two jobs... and second, did he not think that fish and wildlife were in danger from this oil spill???

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I got a better one. Say you paid for non-refundible tickets for a vacation, and you notice a leaky pipe in your basement just before you leave. You call your neighbour, explain the situation, and ask them to check it every so often and empty the bucket. You then give them your cell number, and tell them to call you should it get worse.

    Get it yet or do I have to draw pictures?
    I'd take the hit. Most times airlines will charge a fee to take another flight and ven if not plumbing problems can cost a heck of a lot more

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I think he needs to be held accountable, Just as Brown was. No excuse for crap like this. Who the **** does he think he is? Our master? NO. He is our servant. Think of America as a mansion owned by a millionaire called "We the People". When the servants refuse to know their place, it is time to fire them.

    BTW, I think some Liberal outrage here would be appropriate too.
    This isn't even close to the Brownie incident. In Katrina it was obvious what was needed and not done.

    But in this incident , does anyone really have a clue what to do? The current plan to drop a steel and conrete box over the top of the leak reminds something the coyote would try to capture the Roadrunner with. Hopefully it will but the damage is already done that will takes decades of cleaning.
    Perhaps the government needs to force the oil companies to put money in developing equipment that could be used to suck up the oil from water that could be employed by numerous boats. This won't be the last accident from offshore oil wells or ruptured tankers.
    As to where is the Liberal outrage, where are the right wingers who were claiming this was a minor incident and those excited about it were your typical global warming nuts.

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Your tax dollars at work.
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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    This isn't even close to the Brownie incident. In Katrina it was obvious what was needed and not done.

    But in this incident , does anyone really have a clue what to do? The current plan to drop a steel and conrete box over the top of the leak reminds something the coyote would try to capture the Roadrunner with. Hopefully it will but the damage is already done that will takes decades of cleaning.
    Perhaps the government needs to force the oil companies to put money in developing equipment that could be used to suck up the oil from water that could be employed by numerous boats. This won't be the last accident from offshore oil wells or ruptured tankers.
    As to where is the Liberal outrage, where are the right wingers who were claiming this was a minor incident and those excited about it were your typical global warming nuts.
    Are you serious??? Contingency plans, laws, and cleanup funds were planned right after the Exxon Valdez spill and that was almost 20 years ago.

    The U.S. Coast Guard is responsible for coordinating all spill clean-ups in American waters. Where were they?? Where was the needed equipment ??

    The requirements of this emergency should have been immediately apparent to all concerned, the Coast Guard, BP, EPA, USFWS, Interior Dept., and Homeland Security.

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I got a better one. Say you paid for non-refundible tickets for a vacation, and you notice a leaky pipe in your basement just before you leave. You call your neighbour, explain the situation, and ask them to check it every so often and empty the bucket. You then give them your cell number, and tell them to call you should it get worse.

    Get it yet or do I have to draw pictures?
    Not even close... draw the picture. Try to keep the BS off it, though I know it'll be difficult.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'd take the hit. Most times airlines will charge a fee to take another flight and ven if not plumbing problems can cost a heck of a lot more
    Exactly --- apparently the non-refundable ticket is a helluva lot more important than tens of thousands of people's lives being impacted, an entire ecology being killed off and millions of dollars of damage being done every day.

    Let's keep that refundable ticket going dear... we can't lose a thousands dollars just because my job with the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is being impacted and it's MY RESPONSIBILITY. Rafting is FUN.

    I don't know if my hip-waders are high enough for this apologist BS story.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    I haven't posted here in quite a long time, but this one is so absurd I have to say something:

    The chief of staff of the Interior Department isn't like the Chief of Staff of the Army. The heads of the Interior Department are the Secretary of the Interior and their undersecretaries. The Interior Department is run by a secretariat (as are the other departments of government).

    The Chief of Staff of the Interior is roughly akin to the HR manager in a corporation. He has no operational weight; this is a person whose job is to serve as a liason between individual employees and the company on matters such as pay, benefits, work hours, and so on, as well as to vet potential hires in important positions. The Chief of Staff of the Interior Department doesn't relay orders or serve in the chain of command. Ken Salazaar is the lead guy, and he relays orders through the undersecretaries of (for instance) the Bureau of Indian affairs, the Bureau of Land Reclamation, and other such.

    No doubt, during the oil spill, plenty of people were taking a vacation or doing something non-oil-spill related.

    During Katrina, the National Security Advisor and future Secretary of State was buying shoes on Madison Avenue. The President was playing guitar and having birthday cake. The Vice President was apparently in his lair of evil plotting the murder of foreign dignitaries. The head of FEMA was betting on horse races. And so on.

    The best you guys can come up with is an HR guy on a rafting trip. HUGE difference--even if he is the head HR guy.

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    NO, I wouldn't. I would repair it BEFORE I left or I wouldn't go.
    Well, that's because you care. If you really didn't give a **** one way or the other you might still go. And I think that's exactly what happened here... he and his Dept. and the WH didn't give a **** until they saw it was going to be big time PR... which is why the WH put out the "we were there from day 1" propaganda that Salazar and Napolitano spun over a dozen times in one day which was and is a lie.

    I believe you would fix it or not go. That's not how our Government operates no matter how much some in this thread try to polish that turd.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I got a better one. Say you paid for non-refundible tickets for a vacation, and you notice a leaky pipe in your basement just before you leave. You call your neighbour, explain the situation, and ask them to check it every so often and empty the bucket. You then give them your cell number, and tell them to call you should it get worse.

    Get it yet or do I have to draw pictures?
    I'm going to kill the water at the meter, open the garden hose to relieve the pressure from the system and haul ass on vacation and deal with it when I get home....
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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