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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    no one cares what you do or don't have problems with
    Feel better about yourself now that you got that off your chest?

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    BP Is Criticized Over Oil Spill, but U.S. Missed Chances to Act - NYTimes.com

    But it is still the government, in this case the Coast Guard, that has the final say. A law passed a year after the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster makes "each responsible party for a vessel or a facility from which oil is discharged" liable for cleaning up a spill. But oversight of the cleanup is designated to the Coast Guard, with advice from other federal agencies.

    Rear Adm. Robert C. North, retired, who was commander of the Coast Guard’s Eighth District from 1994 to 1996, said that decisions in these situations are made collectively, but that the buck essentially stops with the federal coordinator — in this case, Admiral Landry. “The federal on-scene coordinator is kind of the one individual to say, ‘I think we need to do more’ or ‘That’s adequate,’ ” he said.
    unfortunately:

    Officials initially seemed to underestimate the threat of a leak, just as BP did last year when it told the government such an event was highly unlikely. Rear Adm. Mary E. Landry, the chief Coast Guard official in charge of the response, said on April 22, after the rig sank, that the oil that was on the surface appeared to be merely residual oil from the fire, though she said it was unclear what was going on underwater. The day after, officials said that it appeared the well’s blowout preventer had kicked in and that there did not seem to be any oil leaking from the well, though they cautioned it was not a guarantee.
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    (The NOAA document on a potentially far larger leak, first obtained by The Press-Register in Mobile, Ala., was described by an agency spokesman as simply a possibility raised by a staff member, not an official prediction.)
    tragic incompetence

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Actually, I think both RH and MG are correct in certain points. RH is correct that it was wrong for this guy to take this trip if he knew that this was shaping up to be a big oil spill. MG is correct that nothing went wrong (sorry RH, the oil booms you are obsessive about were already NOT in existence, there was nothing that could be done that wasn't already being done about there not being any available).

    However, something COULD have gone wrong, even if nothing did. It shows a real lack of concern about a developing disaster. Even if people's lives are not at stake, like they were with Katrina, their livelihoods ARE. In so far as RH sticks to the verifiable truth, he is right to criticize the jerk.

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Actually, I think both RH and MG are correct in certain points. RH is correct that it was wrong for this guy to take this trip if he knew that this was shaping up to be a big oil spill. MG is correct that nothing went wrong (sorry RH, the oil booms you are obsessive about were already NOT in existence, there was nothing that could be done that wasn't already being done about there not being any available).

    However, something COULD have gone wrong, even if nothing did. It shows a real lack of concern about a developing disaster. Even if people's lives are not at stake, like they were with Katrina, their livelihoods ARE. In so far as RH sticks to the verifiable truth, he is right to criticize the jerk.



    oh i agree he could not have gotten these booms in time. however the time for him and his predesessors to get them was in 1994 on.
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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

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    I would wager its systemic of a bigger problem our government has......
    Yeah, government officials do things that normal Americans do.

    God, that's so wrong ...


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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I think we found Obama's Michael “Heckuva job, Brownie” Brown..
    Thin and desperate, Rev... Thin and desperate.

    Perhaps a little research and fact-checking would save you on embarassment...

    Deputy Secretary of Interior David Hayes is Deployed to the Gulf Coast

    The morning after the explosion, Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar deployed Deputy Secretary David J. Hayes to the Gulf Coast to assist with coordination and response to the event, and provide hourly reports to Secretary Salazar and other administration officials.
    That was Wed. Apr 21--less than 12 hours in....

    Come on, Rev, stop posting all these weak hit-jobs... you're starting to come off like one of the far-righties around here...

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    This problem is really in the hands of the engineers who are designing the solution to it. Government paper pushers are useless.

    Their job would have been monitoring and prevention, obviously they failed.

    People who actually do 'real' work will solve this crisis. People who manage departments run by government bureaucrats will not.

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    appearances are very, very important in politics

    ken salazar's chief of staff LOOKS like he's partying while the gulf gushes goo

    really dumb

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    appearances are very, very important in politics

    ken salazar's chief of staff LOOKS like he's partying while the gulf gushes goo

    really dumb
    I don't disagree... I just find it sad that we as a nation are basically reduced to electing an image, rather than worrying about what anyone actually wants to accomplish.

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    Re: While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "W

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    yeah but she went rafting with the husband who DIDNT pay.... Come now, if this was a guy in the bush admin you would be (rightly) all over it....
    Right... he didn't pay because it was a business trip. And no, if he was in the Bush Administration, I wouldn't be all over it. Federal workers take business trips all of the time, so why should this be criticized?


    It's abhorrent for this guy to leave on a rafting trip 3 days AFTER the spill on a supposed dept trip on my dime.
    Abhorrent? I don't think I'd use that strong of a word. Stupid? Seems to me. I gather--at the time of his departure--that he was not sure of the level of seriousness. He took the risk, and it backfired.

    Not sure why you think the trip was "supposed?" The article clearly explains the intent of his trip. Why do you doubt this?
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

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