Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:
These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.
My point is that pre-school shouldn't teach academics, shouldn't teach letters, but should allow children to explore their environment and develop their minds and bodies without encouraging early reading.
The schools have it backwards these days and are severely off course by pushing kindergartners into academics. I always fought it, and by 4 grade my kids were reading on the 12th grade level and reading for pleasure.
I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
First off the chance of a child surviving under 22 weeks is under 1%, so any impact on the statistics is minimal at best. Does it happen? Yes, but there is a 99% chance of said child not making it. Children born after 23 weeks of gestation have a 50% of survival and those born 23+ weeks have a far far higher chance of survival.
Secondly there are a huge set of western European countries that have the same standards as the US, and ALL are above the US in the list I believe.
Thirdly of those countries not with the same rules.. lets look at some of them..
Norway.. 12 weeks.. NO child has ever ever ever survived under 21 weeks of gestation, so this in all practice is the same rule as the US and the rest of Europe.
Netherlands and France. 22 weeks or 500 grams.. only one reported child in human history has survived under 22 weeks of gestation... one child. Children under 23 weeks can pretty much be counted in under 100 I believe.
Face it the differences are at best minimal if there are any real differences in reporting between the US and all major industrialized countries.
And if you seriously think that Europeans dont do everything to save a child born too early, then I must say... the arrogance and ignorance is appalling.
Last edited by PeteEU; 05-06-10 at 01:27 PM.
as for the child mortality, we've been over and over why that's a messed up metric.
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Where did you get the idea that I was insulting Europeans? Seriously.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/health/04infant.htmlHigh rates of premature birth are the main reason the United States has higher infant mortality than do many other rich countries, government researchers reported Tuesday in their first detailed analysis of a longstanding problem.
In Sweden, for instance, 6.3 percent of births were premature, compared with 12.4 percent in the United States in 2005, the latest year for which international rankings are available. Infant mortality also differed markedly: for every 1,000 births in the United States, 6.9 infants died before they turned 1, compared with 2.4 in Sweden. Twenty-nine other countries also had lower rates.
If the United States could match Sweden’s prematurity rate, the new report said, “nearly 8,000 infant deaths would be averted each year, and the U.S. infant mortality rate would be one-third lower.”
The first author of the report, Marian F. MacDorman, a statistician at the National Center for Health Statistics, said in an interview that the strong role prematurity played came as a surprise to her.
Last edited by lizzie; 05-06-10 at 10:06 PM.
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