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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I kinda thought it would be helpful to wait til we actually have some FACTS about the cause and not some continued blowhards spouting rhetoric they have read from OTHER 'learned' blowhards...and the fact is we simply dont know yet.

    But since people want to rattle the ghost of Haliburton/Bush/Cheny 's chains, I thought it would be appropriate to remind people that it was in fact Bill Clinton that 'saddled' the US with Haliburton by awarding them an IDIQ contract to manage the rebuilding of Serbia...that country he declared an unconstitutional war on...long before Bush/Cheny
    Well that's true. We actually do have a lot of facts about how the accident occurred, however.

    The funny thing is that ADK provides a lot of good sources, but he'll ignore you or flame you even if you correct your arguments when presented with new information if you don't also pick up his Liberal banner and flame Bush at every turn.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Well that's true. We actually do have a lot of facts about how the accident occurred, however.

    The funny thing is that ADK provides a lot of good sources, but he'll ignore you or flame you even if you correct your arguments when presented with new information if you don't also pick up his Liberal banner and flame Bush at every turn.
    So he is one of those blind ideologues that cant (or refuses to) see that republican/democrat...there isnt a dimes difference between the two of them? Well...that makes sense...explains a lot...

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So he is one of those blind ideologues that cant (or refuses to) see that republican/democrat...there isnt a dimes difference between the two of them? Well...that makes sense...explains a lot...
    In ADK's mind, the oil only lands on blue states.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Not much attention has been on the possible cause of the oil rig blast. This article sheds light on a possible cause.


    Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill - Science and Tech - The Atlantic
    My father being in the oil business for some 40 years as a drilling consultant and having experienced several blows outs on offshore rigs, you probably have posted the closest reason for this mishap. Now that said, ultimately it is the engineers for BP and Halliburton that F'ed up but, not Halliburton as a whole. Accidents happen especially at depths that is not common in the drilling for offshore oil.

    Compare it to a plane crash, most often it's pilot error and not the manufacture of the aircraft.

    In no way am I trying to diminish this unprecedented disaster, but looking for blame as if it was intentional will solve nothing. That said, Myowndrum, these comments of mine are not directed at you. All in all blowouts are not common, it very very expensive in every respect in life, equipment and environmental cost, oil companies to go to great lengths in regards to safety. This cause of this disaster will ultimately fall on the shoulders of engineers, whether through negligence, short cutting or which ever.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's what I just said:
    Oops! No excuses. I read too fast and assumed you hadn't changed your stance.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Well that's true. We actually do have a lot of facts about how the accident occurred, however.

    The funny thing is that ADK provides a lot of good sources, but he'll ignore you or flame you even if you correct your arguments when presented with new information if you don't also pick up his Liberal banner and flame Bush at every turn.
    You don't correct your arguments. You just slip in a change without admitting that you were wrong in the first place, acting as if you took the correct stance from the git go.

    You only get a 'tude from me if you've given it to me first. Usually, you are the one who ignores facts, from anyone, that disprove your assumptions. Go back over your posts on this issue and you'll find you only changed your stance on this page. Remember your "methane bubble" theory?

    The fact that my facts blaming Bush for so many things gets annoying just might be because ... he is responsible for so many of our problems. And the fact that you're now attacking me, without even responding to a post of mine, shows how much my facts annoy you. If you would open your eyes to the truth about Bush you wouldn't feel so bad when another of his crimes is exposed.

    VanceMack, my only dog in this fight is the environment. I have stated that MMS, under Obama, is also very much responsible here.
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    The rigs that BP owns all have the acousticly activated BOP feature installed. However, those rigs that BP leases, like the Deepwater Horizon, do not have that safety feature.



    No one that I've ever heard. THAT is the problem.



    No sir, it is you who either doesn't know what the hell you're talking about or are intentionally ignoring the most recent reasons why this disaster happened.

    Because BP was in a hurry they were cutting corners by skipping safety features and industry approved steps. The explosion occurred because 1) BP continued on while they knew the BOP was damaged in two areas, one accidentally by their own worker, and thus failed when it needed to work. 2) BP overrode Halliburton's plan to fill the tube with mud instead they drained the mud increasing pressure on those cement plugs directly causing the oil and gas to burst up and out exploding!

    I've posted this but, you've probably ignored it because you think you know better. Read and/or listen and educate yourself.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...-disaster.html
    I doubt, seriously, that you have enough of a clue about how oil drilling rigs work to express an informed opinion.

    Oil wells aren't plugged with cement. Period. How many times do you have to be told that, before you catch on? Unless, the well is being plugged and abandoned. You can buy into this trufer BS all you want, but it's not going to change the facts.
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I doubt, seriously, that you have enough of a clue about how oil drilling rigs work to express an informed opinion.

    Oil wells aren't plugged with cement. Period. How many times do you have to be told that, before you catch on? Unless, the well is being plugged and abandoned. You can buy into this trufer BS all you want, but it's not going to change the facts.
    If you're trying to say that nobody who has never worked on an oil rig has no business commenting on what happened then you are sadly mistaken. My link explains what happened and why. Instead of playing that old rightee card of attacking the messenger, why don't you try to argue the points I've made.

    Good luck.
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    If you're trying to say that nobody who has never worked on an oil rig has no business commenting on what happened then you are sadly mistaken. My link explains what happened and why. Instead of playing that old rightee card of attacking the messenger, why don't you try to argue the points I've made.

    Good luck.
    If this was the case and proven as such, then shame on the engineers for even going along with this, in my fathers day this would have never even been considered.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    If this was the case and proven as such, then shame on the engineers for even going along with this, in my fathers day this would have never even been considered.
    The problem is that BP holds all the cards as far as all the workers on those rigs are concerned. If they work for Halliburton and HB caves in to BP's demands then they have little say... if they want to keep their jobs that is. Now if one of them had turned BP in for some of those bad decisions... maybe this whole mess would have been avoided. Problem is, we wouldn't know what we avoided and those whistleblowers would be out of luck and a job. BP may have received a fine but, more probably another slap on the wrist.
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