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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The rig is hired by BP but is owned and operated by Transocean.
    I believe BP owns the well, but contracted all the work out to Transocean and others.
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    they are not responsible for preventing oil spills from rigs, and nothing in your post proves that.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    The Coast Guard checks lifesaving procedures and equipment, and panel members were concerned about the fact that lifeboat weight capacity is calculated at 165 pounds per person, a figure based on passenger vessels with women and children, not drilling rigs staffed almost exclusively by grown men.

    Kenner hearing: Some Coast Guard oil rig safety regulations outdated | NOLA.com

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    they are not responsible for preventing oil spills from rigs, and nothing in your post proves that.
    Ok, it's up to you if you don't want to believe your own eyes.....

    and you have the nerve to call me recalcitrant ??/?

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Maybe you should show us what specific words in your link supports your view.

    Go ahead. We'll wait.
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Who recommended them and when??
    Here ya go. I've bolded and colored certain text to make it easier for you to spot the important facts.

    A common spin in the right wing coverage of BP’s oil spill is a gleeful suggestion that the gulf blowout is Obama’s Katrina.

    In truth, culpability for the disaster can more accurately be laid at the Bush Administration’s doorstep. For eight years, George Bush’s presidency infected the oil industry’s oversight agency, the Minerals Management Service, with a septic culture of corruption from which it has yet to recover. Oil patch alumnae in the White House encouraged agency personnel to engineer weakened safeguards that directly contributed to the gulf catastrophe.

    The absence of an acoustical regulator — a remotely triggered dead man’s switch that might have closed off BP’s gushing pipe at its sea floor wellhead when the manual switch failed (the fire and explosion on the drilling platform may have prevented the dying workers from pushing the button) — was directly attributable to industry pandering by the Bush team. Acoustic switches are required by law for all offshore rigs off Brazil and in Norway’s North Sea operations. BP uses the devise voluntarily in Britain’s North Sea and elsewhere in the world as do other big players like Holland’s Shell and France’s Total. In 2000, the Minerals Management Service while weighing a comprehensive rulemaking for drilling safety, deemed the acoustic mechanism “essential” and proposed to mandate the mechanism on all gulf rigs.

    Then, between January and March of 2001, incoming Vice President Dick Cheney conducted secret meetings with over 100 oil industry officials allowing them to draft a wish list of industry demands to be implemented by the oil friendly administration. Cheney also used that time to re-staff the Minerals Management Service with oil industry toadies including a cabal of his Wyoming carbon cronies. In 2003, newly reconstituted Minerals Management Service genuflected to the oil cartel by recommending the removal of the proposed requirement for acoustic switches. The Minerals Management Service’s 2003 study concluded that “acoustic systems are not recommended because they tend to be very costly.”

    The acoustic trigger costs about $500,000. Estimated costs of the oil spill to Gulf Coast residents are now upward of $14 billion to gulf state communities. Bush’s 2005 energy bill officially dropped the requirement for the acoustic switch off devices explaining that the industry’s existing practices are “failsafe.”
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yeah, that too, but gasoline taxes won't pay for all the damage that has been done along the coast. I expect the price of gas to rise partially out of panic, and partially because of the mental impact that this mess will cause. I have quite a few friends along the gulf coast in Louisiana and Alabama, and a couple of them are in the oil business (specifically as suppliers of oil drilling equipment and service). Maybe they are over-reacting, but they are saying it's significantly worse (the damage) than what we are seeing and hearing on the news.
    Of course it's significantly worse than what we're seeing and hearing on the news....and has been from day one....anyone with a modicum of common sense could determine that this was going to be an epic disaster. Obama...the elegant, articulate genious and his minions, however, took well over a week to create spin and bury his recent call for more drilling...oops. Now the scumbag is "angry"? **** his lying ass.

    Perhaps lefties should rethink their stance on nuclear energy....seems drilling just encountered a serious obstical, couple that with their abject hatred for the coal industry, refineries, and damming rivers for hydro....WTF, lefties.....electric cars, solar power and windfarms gonna provide our energy?....jeez...****ing idiots.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    BP posted over $6 billion in profits last year. It seems they can pay for this mess.

    Twice a week the press announces that it's ten times worse than reported.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    BP posted over $6 billion in profits last year. It seems they can pay for this mess.

    Twice a week the press announces that it's ten times worse than reported.
    My God. At that rate, the oil spill will cover the whole universe by the end of August.
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
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    Not all safety features that were recommended. And YOU know it.
    Which, "safety features", are you referring to and are they safe safety features?

    (2)

    No one said they did. BP is 100% responsible for this operation the same way a general contractor is responsible for sub-contractors hired.
    Granted, BP is ultimately responsible for all the FUBAR's, but you said in another post that BP actually owned rigs and that the BP owned rigs had more safety features.

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    No one is saying that safety feature should be "on" the rig.
    And, who said that all of these safety features were on this rig?



    (4)

    Looks like it was their incompetence in their cementing process. It was their cementing that allowed the methane to seep thru causing the explosion. Granted, working with cement at those depths causes many problems not encountered at shallower depths. All the more reason to have "all" recommended safety features installed. BP's decision to not spend that measly $500,000 on that acoustic BOP device now looks very, very short sighted.

    Cementing contributed to half of the 39 U.S. blowouts between 1992 and 2006, according to a report that Danenberger co-authored in 2007.

    (4) Intentionally disingenuous spins on already established facts. Seriously
    Again, you're speaking of that which you know nothing about. By the time the gas had reached the production string, the blowout had bypassed the BOP stack. In no way is the casing cement meant to prevent, obstruct, slow, or otherwise curtail a blowout. If the pressure took the path of least resistance, after it had blown past the BOP stack. THAT is an established fact. Welcome to the oil patch, sir.
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