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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    According to the law, they are.

    Prevention is one of their duties.
    in vessels, not rigs. are you always this recalcitrant?

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    in vessels, not rigs. are you always this recalcitrant?
    Only when I know I'm right.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Only when I know I'm right.
    except i proved you wrong.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    except i proved you wrong.
    really??? I don't remember that part at all... in fact I seem to remember proving you wrong.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Here's a clue for you. The oil companies do have safety features on their drilling rigs.
    (1)

    Not all safety features that were recommended. And YOU know it.

    LOL...here we go again, people talking about things they know nothing about. Here's another clue for you: BP doesn't own any drilling rigs.
    (2)

    No one said they did. BP is 100% responsible for this operation the same way a general contractor is responsible for sub-contractors hired.

    The emergency shutoff that your referring to was a remote shutdown, that would have been controlled from a location other than the rig. It would be diabolically stupid to install that feature on a drilling rig, because a glitch could cause the rams to close, when they're not supposed to. That could cause a blowout, too, ya know.
    (3)

    No one is saying that safety feature should be "on" the rig.

    Hmmm... why is that? Hmmmm.... Some idiots are claiming it was the Coast Guard's duty to have a gazillion feet of boom on board each of their ships just in case one of those hundreds of rigs in the gulf had a spill. Dumb doesn't cover that one. Halliburton will be sued by BP since it was H who caused the explosion and it's not the first time for them to cause one. What a surprise, ehh?
    Man, this is getting better and better all the time! Pray tell, how did Halliburton cause this rig to blowout. I can't wait to hear this!!
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    Looks like it was their incompetence in their cementing process. It was their cementing that allowed the methane to seep thru causing the explosion. Granted, working with cement at those depths causes many problems not encountered at shallower depths. All the more reason to have "all" recommended safety features installed. BP's decision to not spend that measly $500,000 on that acoustic BOP device now looks very, very short sighted.

    Cementing contributed to half of the 39 U.S. blowouts between 1992 and 2006, according to a report that Danenberger co-authored in 2007.

    (4) Intentionally disingenuous spins on already established facts. Seriously
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Coast Gaurd monitors safety on oil rigs, so they are responsible to prevent spills, in part at least.
    they do? what? please provide proof.

    Obama Seeks to Split Agency That Monitors Oil Drilling - Progressive Democrats of America

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    and btw, the coast guard missions say NOTHING about oil rigs, of course.

    USCG: Missions - Maritime Safety

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    really??? I don't remember that part at all... in fact I seem to remember proving you wrong.
    no, you did not. the coast guard monitors vessels, not oil rigs. the minerals management services is supposed to monitor oil rigs.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
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    Not all safety features that were recommended. And YOU know it.
    Who recommended them and when??

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    no, you did not. the coast guard monitors vessels, not oil rigs. the minerals management services is supposed to monitor oil rigs.
    Explain this:

    Section 311/Oil and Hazardous Substances Spills Program -- Section 311 of the CWA addresses pollution from oil and hazardous substance releases, providing EPA and the U.S. Coast Guard with the authority to establish a program for preventing, preparing for, and responding to oil spills or hazardous substances that reach or may reach surface waters. The program is designed to prepare for and respond to any oil spill affecting the inland waters of the U.S.

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    EPA shares jurisdiction over oil and hazardous substances with the U.S.Coast Guard (USCG). Memoranda of Understanding (MOU) between the two Agencies establish guidelines for each Agency's activities. Generally, the MOU allocates enforcement authority for inland spill events to EPA and for coastal events to the USCG, and the Agencies may coordinate specific deviations from the general structure. The USCG is responsible for the Oil Spill Trust Liability Fund and EPA submits requests for reimbursement to the Coast Guard. For spill prevention or response, an Executive Order establishes that EPA has responsibility for non-transportation-related onshore facilities, and other agencies have responsibility for other types of facilities.
    Clean Water Act National Enforcement Programs | Civil Enforcement | Compliance and Enforcement | U.S. EPA

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