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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    I know I'm an old school roughneck but never, and I repeat, NEVER have I seen BOP's placed anywhere we couldn't get to them in a heart beat. The levers to operate them sat 4 steps away from lead tongs and the pipe bank. Two steps directly behind the driller. The BOP's themselves were dirctly below the drill floor.

    Putting them, as I understand it, as the diagrams show, near or on the ocean floor is beyond my comprehension. I must have misunderstood the details. Another thing. Does it not set uneasy in everyones mind to run the surface casing through 5000 feet of water before ever spuddin' in? Seems to me that an angry ocean could snap that like a toothpick.

    There is a lot here that just doesn't add up to me. I would like to write it off as my lack of knowlege of modern technology. But the same physics that applied a million years ago apply today. I just don't get it.

    BOP's are probably one of the most maintained and tested pieces of equipment on a rig. Of all things to screw up, that one will cost a ruffneck and a roustabout his ass. God help the Derrick hand.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I know I'm an old school roughneck but never, and I repeat, NEVER have I seen BOP's placed anywhere we couldn't get to them in a heart beat. The levers to operate them sat 4 steps away from lead tongs and the pipe bank. Two steps directly behind the driller. The BOP's themselves were dirctly below the drill floor.
    By the same token, you can't have 5,000 feet of pipe between your BOP stack and the wellhead, either.

    Putting them, as I understand it, as the diagrams show, near or on the ocean floor is beyond my comprehension. I must have misunderstood the details. Another thing. Does it not set uneasy in everyones mind to run the surface casing through 5000 feet of water before ever spuddin' in? Seems to me that an angry ocean could snap that like a toothpick.
    That's why they run the pipe string down to the wellhead through deepwater risers that are able to flex with the current.
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's where you're wrong. Blowouts like this cost oil companies along with the service companies that get drug into the liability, billions of dollars. I would much rather the oil companies be responsible for blowout safety; alot more than some government bureaucrat. Letting the oil companies do it is like the farmer gaurding the hen house.

    BTW, it didn't take long for a, "it's Halliburton's fault", thread to get cranked up.

    Let me clue ya'll into something: Halliburton isn't liable for anything concerning this blowout. If anyone gets drug into the fracus, it'll be FMC, because they're the ones that built the blowout preventer.
    Here's a "clue" for you... If the oil companies , aka BP, really cared about safety and the impact on our environment from a spill they would have all safety features on their oil rigs. The Exxon Valdez spill isn't 100% cleaned up. They don't care so they don't want to spend money on something that has a smaller chance of happening. Cheeney and Bush lowered the regs and depended on oil companies to be responsible. How ****ing more selfish and stupid can you get? It's 100% their responsibility to prevent and then clean up and then pay for the clean up of their screw ups. It was Cheeney who blocked the mandate of those emergency BOP activators. Did you know BP has that safety feature on their own rigs but, they don't put them on those rigs they lease. Hmmm... why is that? Hmmmm.... Some idiots are claiming it was the Coast Guard's duty to have a gazillion feet of boom on board each of their ships just in case one of those hundreds of rigs in the gulf had a spill. Dumb doesn't cover that one. Halliburton will be sued by BP since it was H who caused the explosion and it's not the first time for them to cause one. What a surprise, ehh?
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Here's a "clue" for you... If the oil companies , aka BP, really cared about safety and the impact on our environment from a spill they would have all safety features on their oil rigs. The Exxon Valdez spill isn't 100% cleaned up. They don't care so they don't want to spend money on something that has a smaller chance of happening. Cheeney and Bush lowered the regs and depended on oil companies to be responsible. How ****ing more selfish and stupid can you get? It's 100% their responsibility to prevent and then clean up and then pay for the clean up of their screw ups. It was Cheeney who blocked the mandate of those emergency BOP activators. Did you know BP has that safety feature on their own rigs but, they don't put them on those rigs they lease. Hmmm... why is that? Hmmmm.... Some idiots are claiming it was the Coast Guard's duty to have a gazillion feet of boom on board each of their ships just in case one of those hundreds of rigs in the gulf had a spill. Dumb doesn't cover that one. Halliburton will be sued by BP since it was H who caused the explosion and it's not the first time for them to cause one. What a surprise, ehh?
    Oil companies would NEVER have enough safety equipment to make you happy. In truly partisan fashion, you blame Bush and Cheney for some nebulous reason that only you know of. I guess you forgot that Obama excused BP from having an EIS on this well, plus additional wells AFTER this one blew up. But that's ok in your mind isn't it??

    You must be really smart. It appears that you already know Halliburton caused the explosion, even though no expert agrees with you.

    The Coast Guard was required to have fire booms since 1994, but you call the person pointing out the requirement an idiot ??? You're right, dumb doesn't cover that one... pot meet kettle.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Oil companies would NEVER have enough safety equipment to make you happy.
    They need to have whatever they might need if the worst goes wrong. They're drilling 5,000 feet under the ocean. They need to be safety conscious. Period.

    In truly partisan fashion, you blame Bush and Cheney for some nebulous reason that only you know of.
    Absolutely. I'm not the only person aware of their guilt here. And if you were brave enough to do any research on this issue you would know this too. Bush and Cheeney packed all the agencies with their lobbyist pals. They were totally anti-environment right across the board. If a reg cost an industry money, they removed it or watered it down. It was those criminals who allowed BP, specifically!, to convince them they would police their own mistakes. Total BS! BP didn't want that accousticly activated BOP because it cost them money. How can any American defend that kind of selfish decision?

    I guess you forgot that Obama excused BP from having an EIS on this well, plus additional wells AFTER this one blew up. But that's ok in your mind isn't it??
    I'm not at all happy with what Obama's admin has allowed to get by them either. But, to switch the target onto Obama is to admit Bush and Cheeney are to blame for the severity of this spill. Unlike you, all I care about here is the environment. If BP can get that oil out safely then I'm all for them. But, they need to put safety and the environment first, not their profits.

    It appears that you already know Halliburton caused the explosion, even though no expert agrees with you.
    It sure looks like Haliburton screwed up yet another cementing process here. This is not the first time their bad cementing job has caused an explosion.

    The Coast Guard was required to have fire booms since 1994, but you call the person pointing out the requirement an idiot ??? You're right, dumb doesn't cover that one... pot meet kettle.
    So, if a Coast Guard ship is required to carry some booms, just how much do they have to have on board? Could they ever have all the booms that this spill required? Do you think Coast Guard ships have to circle every single oil rig just in case it develops a spill? Duh! This kind of bull**** is nothing but blind rhetoric trying to blame Obama for another of Bush & Cheeney’s crimes against our country. Yes, I think anybody who defends such anti-American behavior is an idiot, for starters.

    BP is the only group responsible for mopping up this oil spill. To try to lay any blame on the Coast Guard is like blaming George W Bush for being stupid.
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Here's what kind of companies we're dealing with in the oil industry.

    Workers aboard an exploding offshore drilling platform were told to sign statements denying they were hurt or witnessed the blast that rocked the rig, killed 11 and spewed millions of gallons of oil into the ocean, their attorneys said Tuesday.

    "These men are told they have to sign these statements or they can't go home," said Tony Buzbee, a Houston-based attorney for 10 Transocean workers. "I think it's pretty callous, but I'm not surprised by it."
    Lawyers: Rig workers asked to sign statements
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    They need to have whatever they might need if the worst goes wrong. They're drilling 5,000 feet under the ocean. They need to be safety conscious. Period.
    Ahh, so they should have a ship load of emergency equipment anchored next to each and every oil rig, just in case ???

    Absolutely. I'm not the only person aware of their guilt here. And if you were brave enough to do any research on this issue you would know this too. Bush and Cheeney packed all the agencies with their lobbyist pals. They were totally anti-environment right across the board. If a reg cost an industry money, they removed it or watered it down. It was those criminals who allowed BP, specifically!, to convince them they would police their own mistakes. Total BS! BP didn't want that accousticly activated BOP because it cost them money. How can any American defend that kind of selfish decision?
    You are right. Several other hyper-partisans with BDS agree with you.

    I'm not at all happy with what Obama's admin has allowed to get by them either. But, to switch the target onto Obama is to admit Bush and Cheeney are to blame for the severity of this spill. Unlike you, all I care about here is the environment. If BP can get that oil out safely then I'm all for them. But, they need to put safety and the environment first, not their profits.
    Obama is the president, not Bush or Cheney.
    It sure looks like Haliburton screwed up yet another cementing process here. This is not the first time their bad cementing job has caused an explosion.
    So now you are an expert on oil wells and pipeline cementing ??

    So, if a Coast Guard ship is required to carry some booms, just how much do they have to have on board? Could they ever have all the booms that this spill required? Do you think Coast Guard ships have to circle every single oil rig just in case it develops a spill? Duh! This kind of bull**** is nothing but blind rhetoric trying to blame Obama for another of Bush & Cheeney’s crimes against our country. Yes, I think anybody who defends such anti-American behavior is an idiot, for starters.
    Why not? You seem to think BP and other oil companies should. The Coast Guard is responsible for supervision and administration for the cleanup of ALL oil spills.

    BP is the only group responsible for mopping up this oil spill. To try to lay any blame on the Coast Guard is like blaming George W Bush for being stupid.
    Just a few minutes ago, you said it was all Bush and Cheney's fault? Did you forget that???

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    anyone working on a rig is a rig worker.

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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ahh, so they should have a ship load of emergency equipment anchored next to each and every oil rig, just in case ???
    That would be ridiculous. But, there should be plans to get necessary equipment to accidents much faster than they did.

    The biggest problem here was their lack of safety features which saved them money but, could have minimized the severity of this accident.

    Obama is the president, not Bush or Cheney.
    That doesn't make Bush & Cheeney any less responsible for lessening regulations enabling this accident to develope.

    So now you are an expert on oil wells and pipeline cementing ??
    You don't need to be an expert to analyze facts.

    Why not? You seem to think BP and other oil companies should. The Coast Guard is responsible for supervision and administration for the cleanup of ALL oil spills.
    And they have been on the job since day one.

    Just a few minutes ago, you said it was all Bush and Cheney's fault? Did you forget that???
    There is a difference between responsibility and fault. It's not even a subtle difference.
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    Re: Halliburton Could Be at Fault for Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    That would be ridiculous.
    I think that describes your entire contribution to this thread, so I'll stop here.

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