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    Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not?

    Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not? - Swampland - TIME.com

    Arizona Sen. John McCain, just a few months from his primary, made clear his position on "Imus in the Morning" Tuesday: The Justice Department should not give suspected Times Square car bomber, Faisal Shahzad, his miranda rights. "Obviously that would be a serious mistake until all the information is gathered," he said.

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    "I hope that [Attorney General Eric] Holder did discuss this with the intelligence community. If they believe they got enough from him, how much more should they get? Did they Mirandize him? I know he's an American citizen but still,” King said. “I hope that if they did read him his rights and if they are going for an indictment as opposed to a tribunal that he did discuss it with the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, all the component parts of the intelligence community.”

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    "I know he's an American citizen but still." Really mister King. Please continue to explain in which circumstances you think I shouldn't have any rights. Also, go **** yourself.

    Same to you, McCain.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not?

    That's reason #72 why I'm not a Republican. They only pay lip service to rights.
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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    Re: Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not?

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    Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not? - Swampland - TIME.com



    "I know he's an American citizen but still." Really mister King. Please continue to explain in which circumstances you think I shouldn't have any rights. Also, go **** yourself.

    Same to you, McCain.
    WHAT????????????????

    this is seriously ****ed up.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not?

    The Republicans care more about justice, not hurting someone's feelings. Yeah the guy deserves his Miranda rights, but as a despicable human being he deserves nothing more. We're talking about a person who wanted to blow up buildings and kill innocent people.

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    Re: Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The Republicans care more about justice, not hurting someone's feelings. Yeah the guy deserves his Miranda rights, but as a despicable human being he deserves nothing more. We're talking about a person who wanted to blow up buildings and kill innocent people.
    We're talking about an American citizen who has rights regardless of what he has been accused of doing.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not?

    Rights are not "feelings". Go ahead and hurt his feelings.
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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    Re: Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    We're talking about an American citizen who has rights regardless of what he has been accused of doing.
    And yes he is innocent until proven guilty, and deserves his Miranda rights, but he deserves nothing more. What if this man knows information about other attacks that will kill people? Are his rights more important than the lives of the innocent?

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    Re: Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    And yes he is innocent until proven guilty, and deserves his Miranda rights, but he deserves nothing more. What if this man knows information about other attacks that will kill people? Are his rights more important than the lives of the innocent?
    I didn't see the words "unless we feel threatened" in the bill of rights.

    edit: But continue to discuss situations in which I should have my rights taken away.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I didn't see the words "unless we feel threatened" in the bill of rights.
    So people should die? What about the pursuit of life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? The guy should be water boarded and given hell to suck the info out of him if there is evidence that he knows of other attacks. Innocent lives are worth more than one fools feelings and rights. If convicted of the crime he should be interrogated using "harsh" methods.

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    Re: Election Year Terror Question: To Mirandize or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The Republicans care more about justice, not hurting someone's feelings.
    Incorrect. If they cared more about JUSTICE then they'd be following the law and the constitution. You know, that thing so many Republicans give lip service to as they beat their chest about 2nd amendment rights but turn around and say "isn't a suicide pact".

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    And yes he is innocent until proven guilty, and deserves his Miranda rights, but he deserves nothing more.
    Correct, and what those two Senators who didn't think he should get that.


    What if this man knows information about other attacks that will kill people? Are his rights more important than the lives of the innocent?
    No, his rights aren't more important. His rights are AS important until such point that he's found guilty.

    There are sacrifices to be made for living in a free country and just because everyone doesn't experience them from going overseas and fighting for it doesn't mean everyone gets to be protected from those potential sacrifices. The possability for danger, even death, in the name of our freedom is the sacrifices we each give to this country. To take away that is to not only dishonor the sacrifices we all make but the sacrifices our forefathers and men and women in the military make.

    We fight to protect our freedom, our constitution, our liberty. What's the point of fighting if we're going to give them away? What's the point of having our brave men and women fighting enemies abroad to keep our freedom if the people at home are taking them away anyways.

    Republicans need to stop paying lip service for the constitution and our founding principles. A fair trial, self incrimination, protection from search and siezure, these are all backbones of our foundation and you don't get to spit on the Founders and our Constitution simply because you say the big T word and get away with it.

    They want to take away the rights of terror suspects, they can try and pass a law and hope they can do all they can until such point that it gets stricken down for being unconstitutional...and that's IF they have the political will and currency from their constituents to pass such a law, which at this point they likely do not.

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