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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Your time line was wrong.

    You were wrong on how long it took to respond.

    You were wrong on when the coast gaurd was placed on high alert.

    The only thing you got right was that they should have had fire booms along our coasts in case something like this happened.




    I've been open to correction.


    Tell me this, how would you grade the Obama Administrations response thus far, a to f?
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    this is naive. We give them permission to drill, we set up a plan for just this, now you want to give your guy a pass?
    It's a lease. As part of the lease, the responsibility for oil spills and environmental damage is squarely on the oil company that has the lease. No one other than a rabid partisan such as yourself would see the Obama Administration, Jindal, or any government entity being to blame for this. This is BP's fault anyone they contracted with.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Moreover, Katrina was the failure of the government at all levels to adequately prepare for and handle a disaster that is squarely in the governments responsibility to handle. We have government to protect public infrastructure and lives from natural disasters.

    How on earth is that supposed to be comparable to an oil spill that is the fault of an oil company? If I carelessly set fire to my own house is that the fault of the government?
    If the federal government gave you a permit to build your house in the middle of a National Forest, then yes it would be their fault if you burned up half the forest, along with other people's houses while setting your's on fire.

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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    If the federal government gave you a permit to build your house in the middle of a National Forest, then yes it would be their fault if you burned up half the forest, along with other people's houses while setting your's on fire.
    Not at all. If you get a timber lease to harvest timber from a National Forest, and as a result of your harvesting practices (lets say slash piles), you cause a fire, and that fire burns up much of the forest, then you are financially responsible for the damage you caused.

    Most states anymore even will charge you for emergency services on public land if the reason you needed them was the result of irresponsibility on your part.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Which officials? Seems local, state, and military possibly.



    You see I blame even previous administrations, but you want to mouth foam. That's regrettable.
    Who you blame doesn't really matter when you get nearly all the facts wrong.

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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    It's a lease. As part of the lease, the responsibility for oil spills and environmental damage is squarely on the oil company that has the lease. No one other than a rabid partisan such as yourself would see the Obama Administration, Jindal, or any government entity being to blame for this. This is BP's fault anyone they contracted with.


    Jindal's a republican.... you did know that so your mouth foaming cries of partisanism has like you FAILED and only makes you look foolish here.


    Any comment on the 1994 disaster plan?


    I blame BP, and I blame the US Government, three admins in fact. They should not allow drilling until the US government is satisfied that the leasee can clean up a spill.


    That said, we better damn sure have a contigency plan, and not drop he ball on preparedness if the company fails as what happens here.


    It's funny watching you mouth foam calling me a partisan where you are willing to destroy the gulf coast to protect Obama from critisizm....
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Who you blame doesn't really matter when you get nearly all the facts wrong.


    I gues the midol hasn't kicked in for you yet. I got a couple days wrong. Oh my... how horrible. really, whine some more.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I've been open to correction.


    Tell me this, how would you grade the Obama Administrations response thus far, a to f?
    I don't think we should really be grading until this mess is done and over with, as we really have no idea how everything is going to work out and exactly what is being done, but I would give it a B.

    They were on top of it as soon as the explosion occurred. They treated it as a priority right from the beginning, even with the information that no oil was leaking. Really the only thing they have screwed up on is not having fire booms in place.

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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Jindal's a republican.... you did know that so your mouth foaming cries of partisanism has like you FAILED and only makes you look foolish here.


    Any comment on the 1994 disaster plan?


    I blame BP, and I blame the US Government, three admins in fact. They should not allow drilling until the US government is satisfied that the leasee can clean up a spill.


    That said, we better damn sure have a contigency plan, and not drop he ball on preparedness if the company fails as what happens here.


    It's funny watching you mouth foam calling me a partisan where you are willing to destroy the gulf coast to protect Obama from critisizm....
    The problem is not Obama here. The problem is:

    1. We need oil.

    2. The oil industry lobby has constantly fought any mandates for improving efficiency that would result in us needing less oil.

    3. The oil industry lobby has constantly fought every single regulation that would make drilling for oil cleaner and safer. The reason why oil exploration is much cleaner today than it has been in previous decades is despite the oil industry lobby, not because of it.

    4. This is what the environmentalist / conservationist community has been screaming for decades while the conservatives "take it, rape it, it's yours" bunch was screaming "Drill baby Drill!" and bitching about all the needless environmental regulations and how the greens were preventing us from drilling for more oil. So in the end, your beef ought to be with the wise use right wingers, and the oil lobby.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Not at all. If you get a timber lease to harvest timber from a National Forest, and as a result of your harvesting practices (lets say slash piles), you cause a fire, and that fire burns up much of the forest, then you are financially responsible for the damage you caused.

    Most states anymore even will charge you for emergency services on public land if the reason you needed them was the result of irresponsibility on your part.
    Not even remotely like the scenario I posted.... try again.

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