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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    It just seemed your honeymoon was a little more than "general interest"
    Maybe you just shouldn't assume.

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    You excused the President.
    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274
    Though I think we're stretching it a bit, as it's not always possible to have every piece of equipment on site that you could ever possibly need in case of any random emergency. But for an oil spill, which doesn't seem amazingly unlikely although they are uncommon, they should have had a few spread around our shores. It really makes sense. They screwed up on that account. I don't think the President has time to go over every single plan of action ever made and make sure that everything is accounted for, but whoever he appointed gets the blame, in which he has to share, just like Bush gets blame for appointing "Heck of a job, Brownie" to head FEMA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    You did? I must have missed that.
    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274
    they should have had a few spread around our shores. It really makes sense. They screwed up on that account. I don't think the President has time to go over every single plan of action ever made and make sure that everything is accounted for, but whoever he appointed gets the blame, in which he has to share
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I read and responded to exactly what you posted.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Ahh a passing the buck partial blame, Good for you.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    obama didn't visit the site for 12 days.....he did, however, respond. as did other officials. that's the lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I criticized him. I just think you're comparison to Katrina is unwarranted. As is the idea that it took them 12 days to respond. That's just a lie, plain and simple. .




    'Obama's Katrina': an Illustrated Timeline


    my bad, 10 days.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    You don't see a little bit of bias in that report? lol.

    Here's a better timeline. Alot more details that the report you posted left out.

    The Gulf Of Mexico Oil Spill: A Timeline | Deep Sea News

    Saturday, April 24th-With remotely operated vehicles, officials discover the oil is escaping from two leaks in a drilling pipe about 5,000 feet below the surface. Leaks appear to be releasing 1,000 barrels a day.

    That's when they find out that it was actually leaking oil.

    Monday, April 26-The oil slick stretches 80 miles across the Gulf and is 36 miles southeast of Louisiana. Cleanup crews set up booms to block as much oil as possible from coming ashore. Remote operative vehicles are full day into operations to sea oil well on ocean floor. Reuters- “The leaking well, 5,000 feet under the ocean surface off Louisiana’s coast, has created an oil sheen and emulsified crude slick with a circumference of about 600 miles, covering about 28,600 square miles (74,070 sq. km), the Coast Guard said on Tuesday. That’s slightly bigger than the U.S. state of West Virginia….The spill, however, is not comparable with the infamous Exxon Valdez disaster, which spilled about 11 million gallons (50 million liters) of oil into the Prince William Sound in Alaska when it ran aground in 1989. BP’s well is spewing about 42,000 gallons (190,900 liters) of oil a day into the ocean, the Coast Guard estimates.”

    Tuesday, April 27-Officials consider setting fire to the slick, which has grown to 100 miles across. The fast-moving spill is about 20 miles off the Louisiana coast. A controlled burn of the surface oil is now considered. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar say they are expanding the government’s investigation of the explosion that caused the disaster. Obama administration officials meet with top executives of BP. Governor Bobby Jindal requests tCoast Guard set up protective booms around several wildlife refuges.

    This is just pathetic on your part.

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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    even with your timeline, you would think that the 1994 plan would put the coast guard on high alert on April 20th, seems your timeline has it at 7 days.


    Oh and governer jindal screwed the pooch on this one as well, (just like Blanco did with Katricna) he should have requested the coast guard be ready on the 21st.


    the pathetic is clearly on your part.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    even with your timeline, you would think that the 1994 plan would put the coast guard on high alert on April 20th, seems your timeline has it at 7 days.


    Oh and governer jindal screwed the pooch on this one as well, (just like Blanco did with Katricna) he should have requested the coast guard be ready on the 21st.
    Reuters AlertNet - US Coast Guard suspends search for 11 rig workers

    "23 Apr 2010 23:18:19 GMT - After a three-day air and sea search covering 5,200 square miles (13,470 square km) of water, "we've reached a point where reasonable expectation of survival is past," Coast Guard Rear Admiral Mary Landry said.
    The threat of a major oil spill spoiling Louisiana's fragile coastline eased after officials said the well, about 5,000 feet (1,525 metres) beneath the ocean surface, was not leaking oil. Officials said cleanup crews remained on high alert pending certainty the well is shut, but they do not expect any leaks."

    The coast gaurd was on high alert. That's been reported ad nauseum.

    Did you really think you could just throw a timeline out there that didn't even mention important things like the amount of oil estimated to be leaking on which days just to score political points? Do you believe everything you read on the internet? Cause sometimes you have to think for yourself just a bit.

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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Reuters AlertNet - US Coast Guard suspends search for 11 rig workers

    "23 Apr 2010 23:18:19 GMT - After a three-day air and sea search covering 5,200 square miles (13,470 square km) of water, "we've reached a point where reasonable expectation of survival is past," Coast Guard Rear Admiral Mary Landry said.
    The threat of a major oil spill spoiling Louisiana's fragile coastline eased after officials said the well, about 5,000 feet (1,525 metres) beneath the ocean surface, was not leaking oil. Officials said cleanup crews remained on high alert pending certainty the well is shut, but they do not expect any leaks."

    The coast gaurd was on high alert. That's been reported ad nauseum.

    Did you really think you could just throw a timeline out there that didn't even mention important things like the amount of oil estimated to be leaking on which days just to score political points? Do you believe everything you read on the internet? Cause sometimes you have to think for yourself just a bit.




    Which officials? Seems local, state, and military possibly.



    You see I blame even previous administrations, but you want to mouth foam. That's regrettable.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Comparing Katrina to this is ridiculous. There was no warning that an oil spill was coming. One was a natural occurrence and the other was a man-made occurrence.

    The better comparison is the Exxon Valdez.
    Moreover, Katrina was the failure of the government at all levels to adequately prepare for and handle a disaster that is squarely in the governments responsibility to handle. We have government to protect public infrastructure and lives from natural disasters.

    How on earth is that supposed to be comparable to an oil spill that is the fault of an oil company? If I carelessly set fire to my own house is that the fault of the government?
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Moreover, Katrina was the failure of the government at all levels to adequately prepare for and handle a disaster that is squarely in the governments responsibility to handle. We have government to protect public infrastructure and lives from natural disasters.

    How on earth is that supposed to be comparable to an oil spill that is the fault of an oil company? If I carelessly set fire to my own house is that the fault of the government?



    this is naive. We give them permission to drill, we set up a plan for just this, now you want to give your guy a pass?
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post

    the pathetic is clearly on your part.
    Your time line was wrong.

    You were wrong on how long it took to respond.

    You were wrong on when the coast gaurd was placed on high alert.

    The only thing you got right was that they should have had fire booms along our coasts in case something like this happened.

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