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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    It was as state and local problem. FEMA should have been there to assist, they did drop the ball however, but the state and the city did far far worse....



    Sorry your attempt to lower the Good Reverend to your level, has FAILED
    Well, no, it's succeeded completely.

    You said: It was as state and local problem.

    So my reply to you about this boom thing is: It is a state and local problem.

    If I believed you genuinely gave a damn about this oil, I'd have a discussion about it. But your only purpose here is to bash Obama any way you can, and everyone can see it.

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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Well, like most people, I haven't heard of fire booms until now. I would have to agree that they should have obviously been near the Gulf of Mexico. Why the Coast Guard didn't have them hasn't been explained. That's probably because there isn't a good explanation. Maybe it took the experts 12 days to debate on how to handle this. This is an unprecedented disaster for us.

    There is room for criticism here, but trying to compare this to Katrina rings hollow to me. We have floods and hurricanes every year. Oil spills we don't have as much experience with.



    But we had a plan, and that plan was not implemented.


    The response from Katrina was a first for us as well....


    Now do I think if this had happened under Bush it would have been handled better? I would suggest probably not. That said, the buck here needs to stop with this Administration and they need to make the correct choices to fix this problem... Some of your cohorts here at DP are actually more concerned with attacking those on the right and libertarians for suggesting the "all hands on deck" approach moreso than critisizing the Obama Administration for 12 days of delay in responding to this disaster....

    they dropped the ball on this, and the hypocrisy of those who screamed at bush over Katrina is large enough on its own to contain this spill, It's only a bit smaller than the Good Reverend's ego.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Well, no, it's succeeded completely.

    You said: It was as state and local problem.

    So my reply to you about this boom thing is: It is a state and local problem.

    If I believed you genuinely gave a damn about this oil, I'd have a discussion about it. But your only purpose here is to bash Obama any way you can, and everyone can see it.
    The only thing I care about regarding the oil is it belongs in my truck, not on the coastline, and if Obama had got off the stick, it would be in my truck.

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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I don't think its ridiculous, I do however think you can't make a direct comparison. Absolutely there are differences in the situations but there are some generalized comparisons, including the simple large national impact and disaster aspect of it.

    I'm in no way saying it should be identical to the coverage of Katrina, but the chasm between the way Katrina and this is covered in the media in regards to the President's response is far wider in my mind than the differences between the two situations.
    Are you saying that you would like the media to be more critical of Obama's handling of this? My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think the media is handling this in a similar fashion to the way they handled the Exxon Valdez and Bush 41. They blamed the oil company for the slow response.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Well, no, it's succeeded completely.

    You said: It was as state and local problem.

    So my reply to you about this boom thing is: It is a state and local problem.


    Actually it's in US waters, and it is going to affect interstate coastlines. By definition its a federal issue.







    If I believed you genuinely gave a damn about this oil, I'd have a discussion about it. But your only purpose here is to bash Obama any way you can, and everyone can see it.


    Really? Is that what I am doing? As one who loves gulf coast seafood, This is a travesty to me. As one who has ties to folks in pensecola, biloxi, and New Orleans, this hits rather personally...


    But you can't make a post in response to me with out your mouth foaming bull****, so you just keep your dishonest nonsense and we'll just shake our heads and laugh at you.
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Do we hear ghosts of Katrina?


    Why wasn't these fire booms on hand like the federal government had planned?


    What is the potential damage from this failure?
    so clinton, bush and obama are responsible? i like it.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    The only thing I care about regarding the oil is it belongs in my truck, not on the coastline, and if Obama had got off the stick, it would be in my truck.
    How exactly did Obama cause this disaster?

    Come on, let's hear it. You guys must have come up with something creative by now. It's inevitable.

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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Really? Is that what I am doing? As one who loves gulf coast seafood, This is a travesty to me. As one who has ties to folks in pensecola, biloxi, and New Orleans, this hits rather personally...
    You must have been awful pissed at Bush about Katrina then.

    Were you?

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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    so clinton, bush and obama are responsible? i like it.



    Pretty much, if they allowed drilling and these fire booms were the contigency plan, they ALL should have made damn sure we had at least one.


    that said, this one is on Obama, as it was on his watch, and his plan, and his responsibility...


    had it happened under those previous admins, then it would have been theres.


    Why did it take 12 days for a federal response? And why have those on the left not applied the same standard they gave bush's time to respond with Katrina?
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    Re: Despite plan, not a single fire boom on hand on Gulf Coast at time of oil spill

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You must have been awful pissed at Bush about Katrina then.

    Were you?



    Actually I was pissed over the fact we had insigificant levies, Pissed that Naggins and Blanco dropped the ball, Pissed that FEMA who shouldn't exist in the first place failed....


    yeah, I was pissed at everyone, though I didn't mouth foam like you over Bush being the main cuplrit here.


    It was a catastrophic failure of Government on all levels. Now do you care to critisize this current administration or are you doing your typical derailment tactics to avoid critisizing your man?
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