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  • The accused is guilty of possessing child porn

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  • The accused is not guilty

    18 90.00%
  • There was prosecutorial misconduct

    13 65.00%
  • Prosecutors were only trying to convict a child molester

    3 15.00%
  • The accused is a potential child molester

    4 20.00%
  • It should be illegal for young-looking women to make porn

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  • The prosecutor should be charged with a crime

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  • Sometimes, there is injustice in America

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Thread: When does porn become child porn

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    Re: When does porn become child porn

    In my view child porn is any kind of pornographic material that depicts children - it can be videos, books, drawings or anything else.

    However child porn laws exist to protect children against sexual exploitation so only the kind of child porn that involves real children in the production (like photo and video) should be banned.

    I also think that photorealistic paintings or CGI-images should be banned even though there are no real children involved in the production. The reason is that it would create a very easy defence for child porn users: "Oh, I thought those were CGI images".

    There also has to be some gradual relaxing on child porn laws according to the age of the child. For instance I don't think it should be illegal for a 18-year old to have images of his 17-year old girlfriend although I think that it should be illegal to make those images public.
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    Re: When does porn become child porn

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    First of all, watch this video, which appeared on Russia Today, for background on this issue:

    YouTube- Porn star saves dude from 20 years in prison


    OK, there are huge problems with the prosecution, which entered a "fact of evidence" that the porn star was no older than 12, when she was actually 18 at the time she made the video. The man was clearly being railroaded by the court.

    But let me also ask this: As young as she appears, is the man who had the video on his computer a potential child molester?
    Am I a "potential" mass murderer because I play shooter video games? Should we lock up people because we "suspect" that they "may possibly" commit a crime "some time" "some where"? Should we be considered guilty until proven innocent and have some wacko fascist regime lock us up on a whim because of "potential" offenses?

    I hope this one's a no-brainer.

    Should child porn laws include watching women who look like children?
    Should murder laws include playing video games where it "looks like" you're shooting someone?

    Should gun control laws include owning toys that "look like" real guns?

    Fo' real, yo?

    It's pretty complicated, so answer the poll, and let's see what we come up with here.

    Note: This poll is multiple choice.
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    Child porn (by real definition) is pornographic images of prepubescent children.

    (By legal definition) any pornographic images of a person considered a minor = "child porn" (even if the person is old enough to have sex with parental consent in their state). This law is pretty screwy, since we have had young guys charged with "child porn" for having nude pictures of their minor girlfriends (so it's legal to actually have sex with them, but not legal to own a crappy nude pic of them).

    Overall, I would say that "child porn" laws are a joke, and when we have 18 year old guys getting charged for having pics of their 16 year old girlfriends, that borders on fascism and pure stupidity. Any pornographic pictures of prepubescent kids is obvious child porn and shouldn't be tolerated. But these laws on nude pics of teenagers (who can legally consent to sex) need to be reformed.
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    Re: When does porn become child porn

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Lastly, it DOES cater to pedophiles.
    Even if that's true, so what?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy
    Now, do all pedophiles act on their desires? No. However, one who actually can be clinically/legally identified as a pedophile would be more succeptable to acting on these feelings when viewing even the false depiction of child porn.
    What makes you think so? Are people more likely to murder a cop after playing Grand Theft Auto? And if so, should the game be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy
    It's like putting a case of beer in front of an alcoholic and telling him he cannot drink it.. Will he drink? Maybe, maybe not, but there is more of a chance that HE will than someone who is NOT an alcoholic in the same situation. This is both the danger and the allure of depicting women who look young.
    No, the analogy to that situation would be putting an actual child in the room with the pedophile and telling him he can't molest her, then leaving them alone.

    I mean, we don't ban movies that show people drinking alcohol, just because some alcoholic might watch it and decide to drink.
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    Re: When does porn become child porn

    Porn is only child porn when it involves children. Other than that .... it is not.

    The prosecutor who tried to send that man to jail for 20 years needs to lose his/her license and spend a year in jail for criminally bad judgement.

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