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"I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

justabubba said:
i have never heard of anyone's last words or of a tombstone bearing the inscription


again, Obama got it right
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i have never heard of anyone's last words or of a tombstone bearing the inscription

Damn.... I wish I hadn't made all that money

Again, Barry got it wrong.
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:roll:
 
Maybe Barry was right........ I'll let you know when I have more money than Bill Gates and George Soros put together.





















































Nope..... Barry is wrong. :mrgreen:
 
As long as the law is being followed and taxes are being paid, it's no one's business, including the government, how much a person makes.
 
Goobieman said:
You REALLY mean to say that you disagree with EVERY decision GWB made?
Wow. Talk about partisan bigotry.
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No, but i disagree with more or less everything he has done, sure.
I like the way you have pointed my comment out rather than the ignorance i was replying too. It goes to show your own partisan tendencies.
 
Deuce said:
I have to agree with him. At some point you just run out of things to buy. Big house, fast car, private jet, young pretty wife, then what? Then you have to start getting creative. (indoor bowling alley) After you've been creative, you have to get silly. (a second private jet for when you want to fly on a BLUE plane instead of a WHITE plane) Then you have to get stupid. (third or fourth houses you never live in) Then obscene. (million dollar parties for your dog)

Instead of the million dollar party for your dog, maybe we should use that money to pay for some road fixing or hiring some more ($)#ing air traffic controllers because the FAA is so underfunded we've got most of our controllers working overtime AND SURELY NOTHING CAN GO WRONG WITH THAT.

Woops. Got a little off topic there.
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You're right. There's actually a thread on here suggesting that the U.S. should lower the minimum wage. So our country would rather make poor people poorer rather than increase taxes on those who are wealthier in order to pay for our nation's infrastructure.
 
mike2810 said:
So Oprah, Pro athletes, movie stars, should be taxed more or paid less. If the Feds want more of the CEO's salary in taxes, then the others should pay. I wonder how this would affect Bill Gates charity foundation contributions, or the cash available for new investments? As we all know the goverment knows what is best for us.:mrgreen:
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So we're now going to have to start up charities to get mass transportation set up in areas without it?
 
samsmart said:
You're right. There's actually a thread on here suggesting that the U.S. should lower the minimum wage. So our country would rather make poor people poorer rather than increase taxes on those who are wealthier in order to pay for our nation's infrastructure.
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In actuality, minumum wage increases level out when prices increase to pay them, simultaneously, no one else's wages are raised to compete. So therefore you lower everyone else without picking up salaries for those at the bottom, so you don't elevate anyone, just spread around monetary depreciation. YAY! Enough misery to go around! Let's throw a party.
 
Deuce said:
I have to agree with him. At some point you just run out of things to buy. Big house, fast car, private jet, young pretty wife, then what? Then you have to start getting creative. (indoor bowling alley) After you've been creative, you have to get silly. (a second private jet for when you want to fly on a BLUE plane instead of a WHITE plane) Then you have to get stupid. (third or fourth houses you never live in) Then obscene. (million dollar parties for your dog)

Instead of the million dollar party for your dog, maybe we should use that money to pay for some road fixing or hiring some more ($)#ing air traffic controllers because the FAA is so underfunded we've got most of our controllers working overtime AND SURELY NOTHING CAN GO WRONG WITH THAT.

Woops. Got a little off topic there.
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Well to continue with your off topic, I couldn't agree more about ATC's but before we do that we should update our antiquated ATC systems which is about 60 years out of date. That said, I believe it is no ones business how much someone makes or how they spend it.
 
Goobieman said:
You REALLY mean to say that you disagree with EVERY decision GWB made?
Wow. Talk about partisan bigotry.
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I agree. Bush was a mixed bag. So is Obama. What we did in 2008 was trade one bag of mixed nuts for another bag of mixed nuts.
 
LaMidRighter said:
In actuality, minumum wage increases level out when prices increase to pay them, simultaneously, no one else's wages are raised to compete. So therefore you lower everyone else without picking up salaries for those at the bottom, so you don't elevate anyone, just spread around monetary depreciation. YAY! Enough misery to go around! Let's throw a party.
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You're right. Instead, let's lower the minimum wage and increases taxes on the wealthy because they're the only one who will have any money to pay for them.
 
How much money someone makes is their personal business. I think "at a certain point the government has spent top much money." Would Obama ever admit that he is too rich and makes too much? Nope. But will he say that people earning 200k+ make too much? He already has said that and has promised to take more of their cash because they make too much. He paints the rich as evil people, yet he fits in the same income bracket (actually he surpasses it). The problem is that our senators are too wealthy, which makes them less able to understand the needs of the average income person. The have been removed from reality and live on some throne that dictates that the rich are evil (except for them, they are exempt).
 
i accept Obama's position as an expressed opposition to plutonomy

certainly citigroup recognizes that the rich drive the economy. is that what the average American believes is appropriate, that we should have the best government money can buy? seems Obama does not subscribe to that either:
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digsbe said:
How much money someone makes is their personal business. I think "at a certain point the government has spent top much money." Would Obama ever admit that he is too rich and makes too much? Nope. But will he say that people earning 200k+ make too much? He already has said that and has promised to take more of their cash because they make too much. He paints the rich as evil people, yet he fits in the same income bracket (actually he surpasses it). The problem is that our senators are too wealthy, which makes them less able to understand the needs of the average income person. The have been removed from reality and live on some throne that dictates that the rich are evil (except for them, they are exempt).
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Hyperbole is not helpful to your cause.
 
1069 said:
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I don't think money is necessary at all. All it does is complicate one's life, IMO.
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You're right you're in the minority.

Coming from someone who inherited wealth and doesn't have to worry about a job? That's just outrageous. I think you've completely lost your perspective on what the average individual is striving for on a daily basis.

I'll trade you my job for your money, since money's not important...how about that?

Sure everyone wants to not have to work and to live in a safe, clean area with good access to spend their liesure time. It takes a lot of effort for most people though. Even if people work 9-5, they are working a lot less than they would have 300 years ago, and they have a lot more liesure time, live longer, etc. Click on your power, your lights, your stove, your TV, your phone, your AC, your shower....yeah, those all came from effort (money).
 
1. None of their business

2. If you want to force people to give up their money is anti-liberty/pursuit of happiness. No two-ways about it.

deuce said:
I have to agree with him. At some point you just run out of things to buy. Big house, fast car, private jet, young pretty wife, then what? Then you have to start getting creative. (indoor bowling alley) After you've been creative, you have to get silly. (a second private jet for when you want to fly on a BLUE plane instead of a WHITE plane) Then you have to get stupid. (third or fourth houses you never live in) Then obscene. (million dollar parties for your dog).
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That's such nonsense. Most wealthy people invest the majority of their money. You know...into business development that provides jobs that provides the incomes to buy the beer.

And when they do spend a lot compared to you, they are also buying things that some other people get paid to make/service, and those people also buy beer, food, etc. How do you ignore that reality when you type such things?

And being serious, are you familiar with how actual human behavior functions with work/money? People, you, me, everyone...tend to not want to work..at all. If we're provided for, we don't waste the energy to do more. Why would we? Markets keep people *more honest*. Yes, you can corrupt aspects of the market, you can beat the system (financial crisis, enron, etc.), and yet this is STILL better than a state-operated version that isn't subject to market forces.

And the icing on the cake is that socailized markets restrict individual freedoms...greatly. Propserity of our century is a result of slapping down tyranny and nobility, and letting everyone have a crack at the financial aspect of power and celebrity.

Deuce said:
What? No, I mean the employees buy things. Cars. Houses. Beer. They absolutely respond to market pressures. This is something people forget a lot about government employees... the money paid to them isn't swallowed into some vacuum, they work for money and spend that money on things just like the rest of us.
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That not generally what people complain about Deuce.

They complain that government workers are overpaid and over-compensated with benefits when compared to private sector jobs where we have a lot greater risk and are subject to market forces. And, that the institution itself is far less efficient than the market can accomodate because who cares about profit margins, productivity, etc., when you have essentially a budget that comes rolling in from people who are forced to pay you?
 
Deuce said:
This is something people forget a lot about government employees... the money paid to them isn't swallowed into some vacuum, they work for money and spend that money on things just like the rest of us.
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Ditto for every person, including the very wealthy. Who the **** do you think builds those jets and indoor bowling alleys?
 
We can always count on class envy to rear its ugly head.
 
danarhea said:
I agree. Bush was a mixed bag. So is Obama. What we did in 2008 was trade one bag of mixed nuts for another bag of mixed nuts.
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I have applauded The Obama on two things:
-His not screwing up GWB's schedule for leaving Iraq
-His "predator drone" joke from last weekend.
 
rivrrat said:
Ditto for every person, including the very wealthy. Who the **** do you think builds those jets and indoor bowling alleys?
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No ****. If you'd bothered to read the conversation rather than just my one post you'd see why I was saying it.
 
Obama is extremely correct.

And its the choice of each individual when that point is, NOT the governments.
 
Deuce said:
No ****. If you'd bothered to read the conversation rather than just my one post you'd see why I was saying it.
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I did read the convo, if I hadn't, I wouldn't have posted what I did. I posted what I did BECAUSE I read your earlier statements regarding your agreement with Obama's bull****.
 
samsmart said:
You're right. Instead, let's lower the minimum wage and increases taxes on the wealthy because they're the only one who will have any money to pay for them.
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You should have just left it at that. I'm kidding. Seriously though, why would you want to raise taxes on the hiring class(The wealthy) That would be counterproductive since they are the ones in charge of assigning raises, so when an employee is worthy of retainment, and dare I say........advancement, the monetary perks come from profits, if profits and the business owner's income are the same thing then it would make sense that the less of his assets he's allowed to keep the less he has to entice quality employees to stay on, so everyone loses.

In other words, 'tis much better to let the weakest workers tire of sub-standard living and join the rest of us in the struggle to improve, than it is to bring the rest of us down to encourage slackers.
 
Did he say "I think at a certain point you've made enough money so I'm going to confiscate it?"

No?

Wait, did he say "I think at a certain point you've made enough money so you'll have to give it away?"

Not that either?

Context is vital.
 
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