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    Re: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I never claimed a desire to do so. People can spend their money on what they want. However, they're still going to pay taxes and that's going to get spent on useful things.
    LOL yes i'd much rather have the government buy 500$ toilet seats instead of that money being reinvested in companies that give people jobs

    If you haven't noticed, government is the problem, not rich people.

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    Re: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I have to agree with him. At some point you just run out of things to buy. Big house, fast car, private jet, young pretty wife, then what? Then you have to start getting creative. (indoor bowling alley) After you've been creative, you have to get silly. (a second private jet for when you want to fly on a BLUE plane instead of a WHITE plane) Then you have to get stupid. (third or fourth houses you never live in) Then obscene. (million dollar parties for your dog)

    Instead of the million dollar party for your dog, maybe we should use that money to pay for some road fixing or hiring some more ($)#ing air traffic controllers because the FAA is so underfunded we've got most of our controllers working overtime AND SURELY NOTHING CAN GO WRONG WITH THAT.

    Woops. Got a little off topic there.
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    Re: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVFF View Post
    LOL yes i'd much rather have the government buy 500$ toilet seats instead of that money being reinvested in companies that give people jobs

    If you haven't noticed, government is the problem, not rich people.
    Someone is making $500 producing that toilet seat!

    I also never said rich people were "the problem." Nor did I say government is innocent.

    I think our current tax system is fair. Wealthy people benefit more from their income than the poor do. (they have a greater % of income that is disposable, and therefore can invest more. in a way, a rich man's dollar is worth more than a dollar) Therefore I don't consider a progressive tax scheme to be a bad thing. Even at a flat tax rate, say 20% across all income ranges, the rich are going to pay more than the poor. It's just how it goes. The only other option is a regressive "flat rate" tax scheme, like everyone of any income pays $5000 for instance, which is pretty much only supported by assholes.

    Our taxes right now are at the lowest or very near the lowest they've ever been since the institution of income taxes. People complaining about taxes being too high should remember that. You hate paying taxes. So do I. Everyone hates paying taxes, but they're necessary.

    The part I dislike about our tax system is how little income tax large corporations pay. Companies can make billions of dollars in profits and not pay a dime in income tax in the US.
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    Re: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

    Well, I don't suppose that since Obama feels someone can make 'enough' money - and he undoubetly made *more* than enough. He'd be willing to toss his few million into the pot to save a few innocent people from dying of cancer?

    Makes little sense for someone to need help right *now* and have to wait a few more years when the President is sitting on a goldmine.
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    Re: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVFF View Post
    LOL yes i'd much rather have the government buy 500$ toilet seats instead of that money being reinvested in companies that give people jobs

    If you haven't noticed, government is the problem, not rich people.
    You do realize that the government never paid that much no?

    Basically, when the government records that it paid an outrageous amount for something, it's cross subsidizing another program. The 1980s were notorious for taking run of the mill military equipment like hammers and nails and booking their costs far exceeding anything reasonable and then using the difference to fund black operations.
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    Re: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And in this great country, you can believe that and live your life however you want. Good for you. More power to you.

    The same goes for someone who wants to make alotta money and buy toys and trinkets. Those people should be just as free to do so.

    My main problem with, "..at a certain point you've made enough money", is, who gets to decide where that point is?

    I wonder what Warren Buffet thinks of Obama now?
    I wonder what Warren Buffet thinks of Obama
    Warren probably still loves Obama, why because he already made his billions. I think those elites who support Obama wish to deny others and future entrepreneurs the opportunity to get rich because they probably have a quilt complex of some sort, or just plain old fashion power trip.

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    Re: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You do realize that the government never paid that much no?

    Basically, when the government records that it paid an outrageous amount for something, it's cross subsidizing another program. The 1980s were notorious for taking run of the mill military equipment like hammers and nails and booking their costs far exceeding anything reasonable and then using the difference to fund black operations.
    Having a DOD account in hauling government freight I can tell you first hand that the government pays a fortune in freight rates. One example I can give is; One slat of pine 1x2x8 that goes on the back of a deuce and a half, the government pays $46.50. One case of WD-40 (12cans) pays 85.90, one trailer load from Harrisburg PA. to Watertown NY pays 4600.00

    I think the 500.00 toilet seat includes the purchase, the warehousing, the transportation and the installation cost.

    Average cost for commercial freight(trailer load) from Harrisburg to Watertown NY, would be around 790.00
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    Re: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Having a DOD account in hauling government freight I can tell you first hand that the government pays a fortune in freight rates. One example I can give is; One slat of pine 1x2x8 that goes on the back of a deuce and a half, the government pays $46.50. One case of WD-40 (12cans) pays 85.90, one trailer load from Harrisburg PA. to Watertown NY pays 4600.00

    I think the 500.00 toilet seat includes the purchase, the warehousing, the transportation and the installation cost.
    You sure they actually paid that? Booking large expenses and actually paying relatively little then taking the difference to fund something secretly isn't something new to the government nor the private sector.
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    Re: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You sure they actually paid that? Booking large expenses and actually paying relatively little then taking the difference to fund something secretly isn't something new to the government nor the private sector.
    Yes I am sure, but this is not to say that your wrong either, but either way the government over pays on just about everything. Government contracts do not discount and pay the full going rate on freight. On the commercial side of things and with competition the average discount on freight is about 60 percent or done with pallet rates at about 60.00 to 100.00 per pallet. A trailer depending on size can fit 22 to 26 pallets single stacked.

    Then their are exclusive loads whether it be one pallet or a full load pays a special rate, usually around 3500.00.

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    Re: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Yes I am sure, but this is not to say that your wrong either, but either way the government over pays on just about everything. Government contracts do not discount and pay the full going rate on freight. On the commercial side of things and with competition the average discount on freight is about 60 percent or done with pallet rates at about 60.00 to 100.00 per pallet. A trailer depending on size can fit 22 to 26 pallets single stacked.
    Then their are exclusive loads whether it be one pallet or a full load pays a special rate, usually around 3500.00.
    The biggest problem is the government can just take more money. If I own a business I have to watch every cost and get the best deals I can because my customer base is not guaranteed to expand, and my last resort is to raise price. Why should the government care when they just raise taxes to make up for deficits? This is why I cannot stand the operating protocols of most government entities.
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