"I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

He is actually correct. As income increases, so does ones desire to increase their leisure. As leisure increases, income naturally decreases. At a certain point, i will not need any more money and can.... retire.

Not yet though:2razz: I am accustomed to a certain lifestyle.

misterman said:

Did he say "I think at a certain point you've made enough money so I'm going to confiscate it?"

No?

Wait, did he say "I think at a certain point you've made enough money so you'll have to give it away?"

Not that either?

Context is vital.

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Context is vital. Both in what he said immedietely and what he's said before. You know, like commenting about spreading the wealth around.

I do think at a certain point they've made enough money, enough so that the government should regulate their ability to lose MY money while they play games trying to squeeze out more for themselves.

misterman said:

I do think at a certain point they've made enough money, enough so that the government should regulate their ability to lose MY money while they play games trying to squeeze out more for themselves.

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Which quite naturally is why you were arguing.......what.....above?:funny

"I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

Barack Hussein Obama
Chief Redistributionist and Income Decider

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Straight from the horse's mouth, or, in this case, from the horse's ass.

When the utility of money declines to the point where you have to spend truckloads of it to get any kicks, you're at that point.

zimmer said:

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Why is it we never hear Leftists say "I do think at a certain point the government has enough of our money through taxes and Ponzi Schemes, and limited enough of your liberties"?

They always want more for doing nothing but making us poorer and our lives more complicated.

But we, with some hard work, cleverness, knowledge, or skill in demand... No, no, no... we have to give more.

To think the first tax was for a tiny fraction of the very wealthiest. Now it smacks 50% in the teeth, while another 50% sticks out their hand... and trying to change it is seen as unfair.

Their appetite for our money is insatiable.

And what do they want to cut?
Precisely what the government should fund, further weakening America.

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mike2810 said:

So Oprah, Pro athletes, movie stars, should be taxed more or paid less. If the Feds want more of the CEO's salary in taxes, then the others should pay. I wonder how this would affect Bill Gates charity foundation contributions, or the cash available for new investments? As we all know the goverment knows what is best for us.:mrgreen:

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Yeah, for a government to lean so much on the wealthy they sure waste no time tearing them down.

The rich and doctors - all evil.

Gipper said:

If I want to lean over to the passenger seat in my Aston-Martin Vanquish and do a few lines of coke off a supermodel's tit, that's my business. If he believes some people make too much, he can easily donate his salary. Kennedy did.

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Technically he donated more than his presidential salary last FY, he just didn't symbolically call it his salary. It was Biden who didn't donate much to charity.

Goobieman said:

Who are you, or anyone else, to edermine what is 'enough' for me to earn?
Who are you, or anyone else, to penalize me for earning more than what you think I should earn?

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I bet that's what the executives who got bonuses as their companies went under would say.

zimmer said:

Why is it we never hear Leftists say "I do think at a certain point the government has enough of our money through taxes and Ponzi Schemes, and limited enough of your liberties"?

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Liberty? Rightists only care about fiscal liberty.

I really wish conservatives here would start speaking in terms of reality again but given our country's discussion these days it is unlikely.

Somehow they think Obama has this big secret plot to steal all their money. Because them LIBERALS just HATE rich people. If they would bother to look at what Obama has actually been doing they just might realize he's basically Bush III with a different set of giant corporations to shovel money into.

zimmer said:

Why is it we never hear Leftists say "I do think at a certain point the government has enough of our money through taxes and Ponzi Schemes, and limited enough of your liberties"?

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because they are not stupid. they realize that a government of the people does not function as a ponzi scheme

They always want more for doing nothing but making us poorer and our lives more complicated.

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show us proof where this has been the case

But we, with some hard work, cleverness, knowledge, or skill in demand... No, no, no... we have to give more.

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again, show us where this is the reality

To think the first tax was for a tiny fraction of the very wealthiest. Now it smacks 50% in the teeth, while another 50% sticks out their hand... and trying to change it is seen as unfair.

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you keep posting specific numbers but you never offer a cite to show your numbers are valid. well, here is your chance

Their appetite for our money is insatiable.

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please distinguish between mine, yours, and ours ... then you will have provided something more than overblown, yet meaningless, hyperbole

And what do they want to cut?
Precisely what the government should fund, further weakening America.

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and what would it be that they want to cut which you believe should instead be left alone


i look forward to your reply

I'm really starting to gain a stronger understanding of the conservative mind and it's primary driving force:

Fear.

Deuce said:

I'm really starting to gain a stronger understanding of the conservative mind and it's primary driving force:

Fear.

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That is utterly laughable, as according to the left, regardless the topic and regardless reality, the so called "fear" and you can throw in fear of "violence" ruse is the go to brain fart of the left when referring to those who oppose their mindset. For decades. As are quite a number of your own stated at DP "fears" which just means you regurgitate the same inane hyperbole as many who have come before you. And will follow.

Need examples from your own posting history? I'm here for you, to help you recall so many of your own poses. Ain't that the beoch of public debate boards?:roll:

1069 said:

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I don't think money is necessary at all. All it does is complicate one's life, IMO.
What are the things that really matter in life? Love, family, friendship, health.
Money can't buy any of that.
At best, it can buy you some toys and trinkets that might provide a fleeting distraction from your unhappiness.
I guess money can buy you some physical comfort and leisure, but I think true happiness lies in expanding your comfort zone, and in being useful.
When I look around at people who have a lot of money, they don't seem happy.
A lot of poor people don't either, but it's because they covet the toys and trinkets more affluent people flaunt in their faces. If they had them, though, they still wouldn't be happy, I don't think.

I don't know the answer. I wish money were less of an issue in our society. We're a wealthy society; there's plenty of money for everyone to have everything they need.
I just wish things were different. I wish more people saw things the way I do, but I've come to accept that almost nobody does.

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And in this great country, you can believe that and live your life however you want. Good for you. More power to you.

The same goes for someone who wants to make alotta money and buy toys and trinkets. Those people should be just as free to do so.

My main problem with, "..at a certain point you've made enough money", is, who gets to decide where that point is?

I wonder what Warren Buffet thinks of Obama now?

Deuce said:

I'm really starting to gain a stronger understanding of the conservative mind and it's primary driving force:

Fear.

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Fear was the main motivater for The Constitution. The Founders feared that even if they established a free country, without a document to protect those freedoms, it wouldn't stay free for very long. I don't blame them. Look at the attacks on our freedom that are being engaged now, even with a constitution to protect those freedoms.

Deuce said:

I'm really starting to gain a stronger understanding of the conservative mind and it's primary driving force:

Fear.

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You might have a good point if you care to explain it more in depth.
Fear of what?

There are a lot of things I fear, indeed - I'm not a rounded conservative, I'm just fiscally conservative - but fear does play a role:

Fear of our country going bankrupt due to our government's bi-partisan spending and taxation policies (as is currently happening in Greece).
Fear of the government leaning on taxes SO much to fund it's bloated budget and excessive spending that they won't be able to get it under control.
Fear that as we continually borrow more and more from other countries (like China) that we'll become TOO dependent on them and will no longer be able to continue the practice and will fall into their debt beyond the money tree's roots (as is already happening).
Fear that my children will enter into a world that's so riddled with international financial debt and crisis that even a solid, strong education and career in a expansive field of work won't even be able to secure them for life.
Fear that the basic requirements of living ordained by the government will topple more and more individuals and couples over - forcing them to be more dependent on the government for support because the basics of living would be unaffordable . . . (Already happening - how many things are requirement by the government that people *must* pay for? Insurance: auto and health - at the least - taxes on all things you buy and own.)

Property taxes are a yearly gutting for me, right now I'm capping off at over $300.00/year - which is 4x's more than what we paid just 3 years ago)

Yeah - I'm driven by fear - fear that our government's irresponsibility and lack of respect for our own people will drive us back and hold us down in our own lives.

Soon the government will crack - instead of favoring reprieve for the middle man it will favor heavier taxation and draw money from people who have none like poison from a wound with the guise of "it's ok, if you can't afford to live we'll take care of you"

Just how many people does the government WANT to support? How long can that type of support last?

All the while - our country is becoming unbelievably fat and ignorant, we're falling off the world scale of importance like a stone from a cliff.

Deuce said:

I'm really starting to gain a stronger understanding of the conservative mind and it's primary driving force:

Fear.

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Love too. You cannot fear that you are losing something if you do not value it.

Deuce said:

I'm really starting to gain a stronger understanding of the conservative mind and it's primary driving force:

Fear.

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Do you consider that a bad thing?

Depending on your goals, yes.

Deuce said:

I'm really starting to gain a stronger understanding of the conservative mind and it's primary driving force:

Fear.

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Just remember that when another liberal documentary filmmaker (you know, most of them) puts out his/her next work of "informative art" that "opens up our minds to the next crisis" or "blows open a crisis no one talks about."

Deuce said:

I have to agree with him. At some point you just run out of things to buy. Big house, fast car, private jet, young pretty wife, then what? Then you have to start getting creative. (indoor bowling alley) After you've been creative, you have to get silly. (a second private jet for when you want to fly on a BLUE plane instead of a WHITE plane) Then you have to get stupid. (third or fourth houses you never live in) Then obscene. (million dollar parties for your dog)

Instead of the million dollar party for your dog, maybe we should use that money to pay for some road fixing or hiring some more ($)#ing air traffic controllers because the FAA is so underfunded we've got most of our controllers working overtime AND SURELY NOTHING CAN GO WRONG WITH THAT.

Woops. Got a little off topic there.

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You see some rich bloke buying an extravagant house, I see my next costumer.

I support keeping my costumers nice and rich so that they can turn around and give their money to me for various projects.

Jerry said:

You see some rich bloke buying an extravagant house, I see my next costumer.

I support keeping my costumers nice and rich so that they can turn around and give their money to me for various projects.

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:rofl Yeah, rich people are good customers. Never have to wait on payment and they always want a ****load of things done that aren't really that difficult.

Only drawback is that they can also be cheap as hell.

Tucker Case said:

:rofl Yeah, rich people are good customers. Never have to wait on payment and they always want a ****load of things done that aren't really that difficult.

Only drawback is that they can also be cheap as hell.

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Rich people *are* rich *because* they're cheap and don't spend money.

They heckle everything - even if they have a trillion in the bank, they'll still buy pineapples when they're on sale.

Way to overreact. The statement does not include a recommendation for legislation. Your billions are safe.

Even the President has a right to opinions and you have the right to disagree. Do try to keep the reaction somewhat in line with the original statement.

baltbelieve said:

Way to overreact. The statement does not include a recommendation for legislation. Your billions are safe.

Even the President has a right to opinions and you have the right to disagree. Do try to keep the reaction somewhat in line with the original statement.

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What a crock of ****. Of course the president has a right to his opinions, he does not have a right to judge others decisions in life, since, you know we are a society of individualism and liberty. Obama is entitled to his opinion and we are entitled to tell him it's none of his ****ing business.