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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Relevance?
    Irony....Mexico opposes the Arizona bill and yet their laws are much much worse.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Irony....Mexico opposes the Arizona bill and yet their laws are much much worse.
    So...you are suggesting that we do the GWB and lower ourselves to the standards and morals to become like those we disagree with?
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Don't know what state you are living in....but ICE is very active in the jails in California and all undocumented arrestees are deported in California...period.
    I did not know that...good to know.

    Many of them come back after being deported, but that's a separate problem that has to be addressed by real reform, not these silly laws.
    These "silly" laws do not address the border and smuggling problem.

    Detainment IS required when you stop someone to search for proof of citizenship based on skin color.
    How is detainment required?

    The fact that this law is based on racial profiling has EVERYTHING to do with this. There's something in our Country called "The United States Constitution" that prohibits it.
    I am unsure whether the 14th Amendment makes racial profiling unconstitutional. Racial profiling is not racism. It is intelligent use of defining characteristics for a problem group. If it is unconstitutional, we should change that.

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    So...you are suggesting that we do the GWB and lower ourselves to the standards and morals to become like those we disagree with?
    No,but then again the Arizona bill doesnt even compare with what Mexico is doing.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Irony....Mexico opposes the Arizona bill and yet their laws are much much worse.
    That's special.

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    No,but then again the Arizona bill doesnt even compare with what Mexico is doing.
    Again, irrelevant.

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    That's special.
    Good,I'm glad you care.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Again, irrelevant.
    No,I think not.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I did not know that...good to know.



    These "silly" laws do not address the border and smuggling problem.



    How is detainment required?



    I am unsure whether the 14th Amendment makes racial profiling unconstitutional. Racial profiling is not racism. It is intelligent use of defining characteristics for a problem group. If it is unconstitutional, we should change that.

    Racial profiling ABSOLUTELY is Unconsitutional...it is well established and is definitely racisim.

    As for Detainment....when you stop someone to search them for proof of citizenship, they are being "detained" under the legal definition of the term.
    People in this country have a right to be free of police intervention, absent some belief that a crime has been committed. Stopping people solely based on the color of their skin to inquire, violates these very principles.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    No,but then again the Arizona bill doesnt even compare with what Mexico is doing.
    Then your analogy fails and is irrelevant. For what purpose was it raised then?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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