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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It is not harassment to prove you legal status.

    When someone commits a crime, they should also be checked for immigration status, whatever their color. If Boston has a bad Irish immigration problem, then check people that look Irish.

    The VAST majority of illegal aliens are Mexican and we ought to focus our resources on that problem.
    Sure...if a person commits a crime, they should and ARE checked for immigration status.

    However, laws that allow people, including American Citizens, to be stopped and detained and forced to show documentation for no reason other than being BROWN....are harassment and disproportionately target those in lower socio-economic status.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You've just identified the problem with this type of law.
    The PROBLEM, as I see it, is all the illegal aliens from Mexico. That, and the people on this side of the border who SUPPOSED to be supporting American interests over Mexican interests.

    I guess we'll just have to see how this plays out.

    It's kinda weird you and me not agreeing on something DD. Guess I'm the odd man out on this one. Hope I don't lose my "Cool Club" membership card.

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It's intelligent. Most illegals are Mexican or Latin American. A defining characteristic is their skin color. We should be checking everyone of them we can find for documentation and deport those that cannot prove legal status. It is not racism.
    No, it is not intelligen this is an exmaple of a nonintteligent move. Most illegals are of all races not just mexicans, or latian americans.

    Are illegal immigrant crime statistics accurate?

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Affirmative Action is to treat people as equals not diffrently.

    This is not like Affirmative Action.
    Thats what the Civil Rights act was for.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Lets take a look at how Mexico treats it's illegals-

    Widespread abuse of migrants in Mexico is 'human rights crisis'
    Relevance?

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    The PROBLEM, as I see it, is all the illegal aliens from Mexico. That, and the people on this side of the border who SUPPOSED to be supporting American interests over Mexican interests.

    I guess we'll just have to see how this plays out.

    It's kinda weird you and me not agreeing on something DD. Guess I'm the odd man out on this one. Hope I don't lose my "Cool Club" membership card.
    Not at all.....I think we have been having a civil debate/disagreement.

    I just think there are better ways of getting at the problem that passing silly laws like this.

    This law was ill conceived, not thought out and really is just one wacko legislature writing legislation to rile the public sentiment.
    The costs of the legislation will outweigh any benefits by a huge margin before it is repealed.
    Last edited by disneydude; 04-28-10 at 09:04 PM.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Thats what the Civil Rights act was for.
    The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission

    The word Affirmative Action is coined towards that law. Lyndon B Johson was the reason that word was coined.

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sure...if a person commits a crime, they should and ARE checked for immigration status.
    No, they are not checked. This is why we have so many illegal alien prisoners, because many illegal aliens commit crimes and we do not deport them.

    However, laws that allow people, including American Citizens, to be stopped and detained and forced to show documentation for no reason other than being BROWN....are harassment and disproportionately target those in lower socio-economic status.
    It is not harassment. Everyone should have a drivers license or an ID card and that should suffice. No detainment required.

    The fact that brown skinned Mexicans may fall in a lower socio-economic status has nothing to do with it.

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    No, they are not checked. This is why we have so many illegal alien prisoners, because many illegal aliens commit crimes and we do not deport them.



    It is not harassment. Everyone should have a drivers license or an ID card and that should suffice. No detainment required.

    The fact that brown skinned Mexicans may fall in a lower socio-economic status has nothing to do with it.

    Don't know what state you are living in....but ICE is very active in the jails in California and all undocumented arrestees are deported in California...period.
    Many of them come back after being deported, but that's a separate problem that has to be addressed by real reform, not these silly laws.

    Detainment IS required when you stop someone to search for proof of citizenship based on skin color.

    The fact that this law is based on racial profiling has EVERYTHING to do with this. There's something in our Country called "The United States Constitution" that prohibits it.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    No, it is not intelligen this is an exmaple of a nonintteligent move. Most illegals are of all races not just mexicans, or latian americans.
    Wrong.

    http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s...cs/illegal.pdf

    Mexico is the leading country of origin, with 2.7 million, or 54 percent, of the population. The Mexican undocumented population has grown at an average annual level of just over 150,000 since 1988. The 14 countries with 50,000 or more undocumented immigrants in 1996 accounted for 81 percent of the total population. The large majority, over 80 percent, of all undocumented immigrants are from countries in the Western Hemisphere.
    Your link has nothing to do with this discussion.

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