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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    But just because a legal citizen has broken the law by speeding does that mean they can see if you did anything else illegal?
    Yes they can. When they run your license if they find you are a parole violator as an example they will arrest you.

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    OK. But he said the police could stop someone if they suspected they were illegals. That pretty much covers every hispanic in the country. Of course if someone is stopped for a crime their identity should be verified and if found to be ilegal they should be deported.

    "authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant"
    My understanding is that you first have to be stopped becuase of some other violation. So if you get stopped for speeding then this law can go into effect.

    I just wonder why people are giving the folks in AZ such a hard time. If the Federal government did one of it's principle jobs and protected the borders, or found a way to detain illegals AZ would not have to do the job the federal government should be doing.

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    This is another good issue for Republicans and Conservatives in the November elections.......Democrats don't like this law because they want the Hispanic vote and don't really care how many illegals are in this country.....Republicans and Conservatives put their political positions aside and want the checks made.

    So do the American people it seems........

    Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status - Rasmussen Reports

    April 26 2010

    Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status


    Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds that 60% of voters nationwide favor such a law, while 31% are opposed.

    No...Democrats don't like it because people shouldn't be able to be stopped and detained by the police simply based on the color of their skin.
    That is un-American and unconstitutional.

    Even ultra-conservative law enforcement agencies across this country are coming out strongly against this horrible and racist law.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Nobody has yet established how a LEO is supposed to identify an illegal immigrant by looks alone and without racially profiling.

    Additionally, how does a citizen prove his status if stopped? I don't know about Arizona, but in Texas just having a drivers license doesn't prove that.

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    I love the part of this law that says that any citizen can sue if they feel that LEO's are not actively enforcing the law.
    There are an awful lot of of sue-happy wackos and money grabbing lawyers that are elated with the AZ legislature now. Wonder how long until Arizona goes bankrupt.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    You can count me amongst the 60%, however, if that number was made up of purely conservatives and republicans, the % number would be much lower.

    I think this issue transcends ideology. There is no defense for not enforcing the law. I don't buy the racial profiling argument. Partly because, the people crying racism appear to me to be the obvious racists in their contempt for our laws and their racial bias towards Mexican nationalists, ahead of US national interest. This ain't Mexico.

    If our borders were being over run by red-headed pygmies, and we took steps to remedy that situation, does anyone truly think La Raza would give a rat's ass?

    Get legal or get the **** out.

    Go Arizona!
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I love the part of this law that says that any citizen can sue if they feel that LEO's are not actively enforcing the law.
    There are an awful lot of of sue-happy wackos and money grabbing lawyers that are elated with the AZ legislature now. Wonder how long until Arizona goes bankrupt.
    I suppose that would depend how long it takes them to get their illegal immigrant infestation under control.

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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I suppose that would depend how long it takes them to get their illegal immigrant infestation under control.
    There are already laws on the books that are not being enforced that could accomplish that better than this wacko law.

    Allowing police to detain people just because their shade of color is different than another is just plain and simply wrong. It is contrary to the basic principles of fairness, equality and justice for all.

    Then...if it wasn't wacko enough, they throw in the part that LEO's can be sued by any joe plumber that wants to file a lawsuit.
    Seriously...the people writing these laws couldn't have made a bigger blunder.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Allowing police to detain people just because their shade of color is different than another is just plain and simply wrong. It is contrary to the basic principles of fairness, equality and justice for all.
    Show us where it says this in the bill.
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    Re: Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I love the part of this law that says that any citizen can sue if they feel that LEO's are not actively enforcing the law.
    There are an awful lot of of sue-happy wackos and money grabbing lawyers that are elated with the AZ legislature now. Wonder how long until Arizona goes bankrupt.
    I think the way those suits typically work is that the plaintiff is suing to compel the relevant government official to act in some way or other. I believe money awards are usually nominal, but I could be mistaken.

    In any event, the same official could be sued for racial profiling or selective enforcement of the same law, so he's pretty much damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

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