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    Re: Bin Laden had 'no clue' about Sept. 11 retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I think he should have taken bin laden when he was offered, and I think he should have went into countries that harbored terrorists.
    From the article I posted:

    Perhaps the most sensational charge against Clinton to emerge in the months since Sept. 11 is the dubious claim that he somehow let an offer from Sudan to turn over bin Laden slip through his fingers. Sullivan blatantly misrepresents a definitive article that appeared in the Washington Post on Oct. 3, 2001, on this topic. "The Sudanese government offered to hand over bin Laden to the United States," Sullivan writes. "Astonishingly, the Clinton administration turned the offer down." But that phony accusation is exploded by the very first sentence of the Post article, which says only that Sudan offered to "arrest Osama bin Laden and place him in Saudi custody."
    And which countries? Remember, al Queda didn't even exist yet.

    At the time, the idea of the U.S. intervening in the middle east with troops on the ground was unthinkable, even to most Republicans. The last time we had tried that, it was the Marines in Lebanon. That was the kind of experience we wanted to avoid.

    Hindsight is 20/20, and it's really lame to go back in time and pretend you were smarter than everyone else.

    Now, I don't think clinton did anything in this particual instance with malice, I think he simply took the wrong response, there was no way for him to know for sure, but actions and inactions have consequences. In this case, it emboldened OBL according to his right hand man, into 911.
    Like I said, hindsight is 20/20. You're welcome to note what Clinton should have done, just don't try to lay all the blame on him or make this political, okay?
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    Re: Bin Laden had 'no clue' about Sept. 11 retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you want me to link that lovely thread Rev? You did it. Sorry that is inconvenient. You know full well if this guy, a terrorist, blamed Bush, you would both not have linked it, and called his words a lie if some one else had linked it.


    Go ahead, see what happens. You made that asinine contention, we supposedly reconciled what each of us meant. But I guess a dishonest person like you, tends to forget that in an attempt to slam someone.



    As to your asinine contention. I think Bush dropped the ball as well, by not taking the threats seriously. While your searching why don't you look for that as well.


    Now are you done with your big mouthed baiting/flaming or are you going to continue to try to derail this thread with your nonsense.
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    Re: Bin Laden had 'no clue' about Sept. 11 retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Which countries? Remember, al Queda didn't even exist yet.

    At the time, the idea of the U.S. intervening in the middle east with troops on the ground was unthinkable, even to most Republicans. The last time we had tried that, it was the Marines in Lebanon. That was the kind of experience we wanted to avoid.

    Hindsight is 20/20, and it's really lame to go back in time and pretend you were smarter than everyone else.



    Like I said, hindsight is 20/20. You're welcome to note what Clinton should have done, just don't try to lay all the blame on him or make this political, okay?



    Did you even read what I posted?


    Here I'll post it again so you don't look so silly in your responses:


    Now, I don't think clinton did anything in this particual instance with malice, I think he simply took the wrong response, there was no way for him to know for sure, but actions and inactions have consequences. In this case, it emboldened OBL according to his right hand man, into 911.
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    Re: Bin Laden had 'no clue' about Sept. 11 retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Did you even read what I posted?
    Did you read what I posted in response?

    And can you just once have a discussion that's not full of anger and accusations and insults?

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    Re: Bin Laden had 'no clue' about Sept. 11 retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Did you read what I posted in response?

    Yes, it had nothing to do with my position. Sorry.


    And can you just once have a discussion that's not full of anger and accusations and insults?

    ***yawn*** that didn't happen.
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    Re: Bin Laden had 'no clue' about Sept. 11 retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Yes, it had nothing to do with my position.
    Yes, it did. Like your claim that I was off-topic, this claim is just completely outside reality.

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    Re: Bin Laden had 'no clue' about Sept. 11 retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yes, it did. Like your claim that I was off-topic, this claim is just completely outside reality.



    ok, your not worth my time. If you want to discuss what my actual position is, get back to me. Otherwise. Have a nice day.
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    Re: Bin Laden had 'no clue' about Sept. 11 retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So as we can see, Inaction by the Clinton administration fueled the confidence of Osama and AQ. This is not actually news to some of us. We often state that one needs to respond harshly to these attacks....


    Appeasment and timidness, led directly to the 911 attacks.
    Yeah well, it's been well known in the intelligence community for some time now that OBL had no idea we were gonna strike back with such force. My major is Homeland Security and I have had former FBI agents as my instructors + all the books written after the fact mention this. It was not only Clinton though. But you are correct in stating that after such things as the USS Cole, African Embassies, 93 trade tower attack, etc etc. OBL figured that since we did not retaliate very hard after these attacks than why should he have to worry after 9/11? He really did believe we would cave in and collapse as a society and never fly again, never travel, and especially not retaliate as hard as we did. Not many people truly understand this, glad you pointed it out to the masses.

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    Re: Bin Laden had 'no clue' about Sept. 11 retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwing86 View Post
    Yeah well, it's been well known in the intelligence community for some time now that OBL had no idea we were gonna strike back with such force. My major is Homeland Security and I have had former FBI agents as my instructors + all the books written after the fact mention this. It was not only Clinton though. But you are correct in stating that after such things as the USS Cole, African Embassies, 93 trade tower attack, etc etc. OBL figured that since we did not retaliate very hard after these attacks than why should he have to worry after 9/11? He really did believe we would cave in and collapse as a society and never fly again, never travel, and especially not retaliate as hard as we did. Not many people truly understand this, glad you pointed it out to the masses.



    I just posted an article what OBL's right hand man had said. The attacks on me personally and the vitriolic hatred is rather shocking.
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    Re: Bin Laden had 'no clue' about Sept. 11 retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    ok, your not worth my time. If you want to discuss what my actual position is, get back to me. Otherwise. Have a nice day.
    I do want to discuss it. I asked you which countries you think Clinton should have invaded or attacked in response to these bombings. So, which ones?

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