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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Methinks you and I have crossed paths before on another forum, perhaps. I have always been Bicycleman, but you are incognito.
    Hmmm. Methinks it is possible. Methinks me knows where. Nice to see you.

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Hmmm. Methinks it is possible. Methinks me knows where. Nice to see you.
    If you know quite much about computer programming, you might be someone I know from another place.

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You claimed Obama was pushing the Fairness Doctrine. You were wrong.
    Look at all the new Czars. They push the dirty work while he appears neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    If you know quite much about computer programming, you might be someone I know from another place.
    Nope, not me.

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Look at all the new Czars. They push the dirty work while he appears neutral.
    Any czars pushing the Fairness Doctrine?

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

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    Any czars pushing the Fairness Doctrine?
    Had you read my previous post/posts, you would not be asking the question.

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Had you read my previous post/posts, you would not be asking the question.
    Consider it a rhetorical question.

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

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    Good god, you're in Va Beach?
    Norfok long time

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Look at all the new Czars. They push the dirty work while he appears neutral.
    No way it's him, bike.

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Neither, or it will be a hybrid of Marxist + Capitalisim at best.
    So it will be both the rejection of capital and the support of capital. Contradictory statements are a great way to being.
    The United States is too far from a widespread agrarian society so any chance at a Maoist form would have had to occur during the 1800's or prior.
    So Maoist isn't the answer. ~3% of Americans are farmers and most therein are farm hands or wage laborers.
    After the industrial revolution it would have been harder to pull off and would today, require a full dictatorial overtaking, oppressive structure and near enslavement of the population to occur. Not likely.
    Marxism didn't exist until post-Industrial Revolution.
    Much easier to initiate a step by step march to centralized the government power structure and go with a classless society by penalizing the rich and redistribution of wealth the lower classes while increasing the power of unions.
    How does one keep a tax law about "penalizing the rich" when it is a classless society? Seems like after the classes are dismantled (which is indeed the end of civilization, btw) then the tax codes don't count anymore.

    What we'll have a hard time with is what to do with the classeless society when we get it. We'll need to have some sort of work -- China has a working class and their manipulation of goods/services and low cost products/low wages coupled with high exports now is causing greater wealth in certain areas. The balance of Capitalism's ability to create wealth and a classless society / spreading that wealth will be a key to success and frankly, has never really been successful.
    So we are going to way of Deng Xiaoping? Which initially started with cottage industries and worked its way up. Where are our cottage industries like we saw in the Chinese villages that lead to the special economic zones and the loosening of capital restrictions.


    Communism has too many pit falls IMO. However, socialism coupled with capitalism and the European model of government / tax / redistribution and government involvement have struck a balance between acceptance and function. The sociological and socio-economic question is with the United States be able to adopt such a balance and if they do, will they ACCEPT it. After all, we exist as the refuse from high society of Europe and from inception, wanted to distance ourselves from such society - at the time, monarchy's.
    That is true, and I agree that America is not European. Socialism in the sense of state responsibility for the well-being of its citizens is not Communism, as it predates Communism. The Human Rights of Citizens was not just an idea from the liberal-marxist thinkers in European history, but also state projects of Bismark and The Directory (post Rev. France).

    Now let us return to the question at hand:

    What Communism is the United States going to adopt?
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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