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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    This should help put your mind at ease regarding the so called "fairness doctrine."



    As for that "Constitution free zone", now that's right up there with the Patriot Act and asset forfeiture on the list of attacks on basic liberties. I'm not sure how we can support the idea of a "free speech zone" either. I thought he whole country was a free speech zone.
    Well, the asset forfeiture started during the Clinton years, all under the guise of fighting the drug war. Then local police departments started depending on it so they could buy more equipment, since the city budget fell short of that.

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Yep. Soon it will surface as full-blown communism.
    How will this Communism surface?

    Will it be more Maoist or Marxist? Will we go the path of N. Korea or Cambodia? Do we have an Albanian chance in hell? or are you just talking thru your ass because you feel that if it is against your paradigm that it must be bad, and it must infact be Communism?
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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    How will this Communism surface?

    Will it be more Maoist or Marxist? Will we go the path of N. Korea or Cambodia? Do we have an Albanian chance in hell? or are you just talking thru your ass because you feel that if it is against your paradigm that it must be bad, and it must infact be Communism?
    I'm sorry but I can't answer your challenge. I have been told I can't talk about him and his plans.

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    I'm sorry but I can't answer your challenge. I have been told I can't talk about him and his plans.
    It is because you do not know what Communism is, but you do feel an urge to throw the word around, as if it is a common insult.

    Here is a hint though: You don't start Communism from an elected office.
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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    It is because you do not know what Communism is, but you do feel an urge to throw the word around, as if it is a common insult.

    Here is a hint though: You don't start Communism from an elected office.
    Let's here what communism is. I know you're dying to enlighten the world. Please define it, but remember, you must break it down into simple terms so an old dog like I can understand it.

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Let's here what communism is. I know you're dying to enlighten the world. Please define it, but remember, you must break it down into simple terms so an old dog like I can understand it.
    Sure.

    It involves the collectivization of thoughts or actions of a certain selection of society depending on the flavor of Communism you choose.
    Marxist Communism was about uniting the working class and creating a classless society after usurping the power of the bourgeoise. This idea focuses on cycles, and cannot be forced.

    Maoist Communism is revolution amongst the agrarian class. In this Communist paradigm the farmers are to be given collectivized land and then their practices of hard, daily labor are to be used to incite the rest of the population to enrich the State. For example, school children right before the "Great Leap Forward" would collect items made of metal, like iron cups and toys, and would throw it into a great furnace. Iron is the symbol of industrialization, and industrialization is to progress the agrarian class structure into Communism.

    The brood of Communism in Cambodia was based on farmers, but it was a much more bloody and bloody-thirsty communism than seen before. It involved mass liquidation of the intelligent class, and large scale concentration camps. This Communism relished in shedding blood.
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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    How will this Communism surface?

    Will it be more Maoist or Marxist? Will we go the path of N. Korea or Cambodia? Do we have an Albanian chance in hell? or are you just talking thru your ass because you feel that if it is against your paradigm that it must be bad, and it must infact be Communism?
    Neither, or it will be a hybrid of Marxist + Capitalisim at best. The United States is too far from a widespread agrarian society so any chance at a Maoist form would have had to occur during the 1800's or prior. After the industrial revolution it would have been harder to pull off and would today, require a full dictatorial overtaking, oppressive structure and near enslavement of the population to occur. Not likely. Much easier to initiate a step by step march to centralized the government power structure and go with a classless society by penalizing the rich and redistribution of wealth the lower classes while increasing the power of unions. What we'll have a hard time with is what to do with the classeless society when we get it. We'll need to have some sort of work -- China has a working class and their manipulation of goods/services and low cost products/low wages coupled with high exports now is causing greater wealth in certain areas. The balance of Capitalism's ability to create wealth and a classless society / spreading that wealth will be a key to success and frankly, has never really been successful.

    Communism has too many pit falls IMO. However, socialism coupled with capitalism and the European model of government / tax / redistribution and government involvement have struck a balance between acceptance and function. The sociological and socio-economic question is with the United States be able to adopt such a balance and if they do, will they ACCEPT it. After all, we exist as the refuse from high society of Europe and from inception, wanted to distance ourselves from such society - at the time, monarchy's.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Would the revival of the Fairness Doctrine stir some thought processes in that little head of yours? What regime constantly berates conservative talk radio and TV? What regime hints at bringing back the Fairness Doctrine when you know quite well fairness is the furthest from the agenda? Think, little one.
    Who wants to kill conservative talk shows because he claims that blacks, Hispanics, and women are not represented by talk radio?
    Not Obama.

    White House: Obama Opposes 'Fairness Doctrine' Revival

    FOXNews.com - White House: Obama Opposes 'Fairness Doctrine' Revival

    Jeez, this was on FOX, you'd think you would have seen it.

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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Not Obama.

    White House: Obama Opposes 'Fairness Doctrine' Revival

    FOXNews.com - White House: Obama Opposes 'Fairness Doctrine' Revival

    Jeez, this was on FOX, you'd think you would have seen it.
    Whew. What a relief. And we all know that politicians can be taken 100% at their word.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: NorfolkVA judge orders website shut down

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Dittohead not! did the research on those. Thanks. And here's a graphic showing exactly where the Constitution-free zones are.
    WTF is this? This is parody, right?

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