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    Re: Media Exaggerate Tea Party's Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Have you forgotten the multitrillion dollar war?
    The one we're still in (Iraq) or the other one we're still and but now prioritizing up (Afghanistan)?

    If you want to add those in, it doesn't change much, as nothing really has changed. We're stills spending between $750 million to $1 billion a week there, which is now just transferring to Afghanistan, which will be Obama's trillion dollar war.

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    Give me a freaking break. The catalyst was that Obama has a D behind his name. When Bush was spending into the red in record amounts, the teapartiers loved him.
    Part of it is partisan no doubt, but when Obama with the D behind his name doubles Bush and makes him look like an alterboy - then passes unpopular health care, buys automakers, bails out more banks, buys AIG... I mean look at the whole ball of wax. Obama's Bush on steroids.

    Claiming they should have been up in arms years ago is convenient, but timing isn't issue, that some people have finally had enough of the spending and are speaking out about it is the issue.
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    Re: Media Exaggerate Tea Party's Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Nope. No pass. Communism is unsustainable and will always collapse. We did not need to borrow trillions to help it along. If you want to spend far more than is needed on one thing you need to pay for it by spending less on something else. I liked Reagan, but that was a flat out screw up. I acknowledge that his policies hastened the collapse. I just don't think the cost-benefit worked in our favor.
    Easy for you to say after the fact. What were you saying in 1980 or were you even alive in 1980?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Media Exaggerate Tea Party's Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The one we're still in (Iraq) or the other one we're still and but now prioritizing up (Afghanistan)?

    If you want to add those in, it doesn't change much, as nothing really has changed. We're stills spending between $750 million to $1 billion a week there, which is now just transferring to Afghanistan, which will be Obama's trillion dollar war.

    Part of it is partisan no doubt, but when Obama with the D behind his name doubles Bush and makes him look like an alterboy - then passes unpopular health care, buys automakers, bails out more banks, buys AIG... I mean look at the whole ball of wax. Obama's Bush on steroids.

    Claiming they should have been up in arms years ago is convenient, but timing isn't issue, that some people have finally had enough of the spending and are speaking out about it is the issue.
    Don't forget, the healthcare bill was so bad they had to bribe their own party members to vote for it.
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    Re: Media Exaggerate Tea Party's Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Easy for you to say after the fact. What were you saying in 1980 or were you even alive in 1980?
    I think it was said before the fact, during the effort, and after. Before is called foresight. Some had it. Also, Reagan didn't act alone. The efforts really had been going on for decades before him. Giving him sole credit is kind of inaccurate. Same with full blame for that matter.

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    Re: Media Exaggerate Tea Party's Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Easy for you to say after the fact. What were you saying in 1980 or were you even alive in 1980?
    In 1980? I was not saying much. I was busy trying to score beer and get laid. Plus, I hadn't taken an intro Econ class yet. Apparently no one in our government ever has.
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    Re: Media Exaggerate Tea Party's Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The one we're still in (Iraq) or the other one we're still and but now prioritizing up (Afghanistan)?

    If you want to add those in, it doesn't change much, as nothing really has changed. We're stills spending between $750 million to $1 billion a week there, which is now just transferring to Afghanistan, which will be Obama's trillion dollar war.
    Both....

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    Re: Media Exaggerate Tea Party's Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    In 1980? I was not saying much. I was busy trying to score beer and get laid. Plus, I hadn't taken an intro Econ class yet. Apparently no one in our government ever has.
    I campaigned for Mondale. LOL

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    Re: Media Exaggerate Tea Party's Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I campaigned for Mondale. LOL

    I was 100% non-political. I graduated high school in the mid 1980's, so geo-politics and economics were not exactly my forte. Although I was never naive enough to think the Soviets were actually going to bomb us. I was shocked so many people really believed that crap. That's when I figured out the government could get people to believe anything. The Sheep Principle.
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    Re: Media Exaggerate Tea Party's Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm not so sure he does.

    Bush (Dubyer, that is) truly was the subject of an astoundingly unprecedented hate-and-smear campaign, like nothing I'd ever seen to that point. The vilification of Dubya went far beyond anything I'd seen aimed at Clinton by the Right, an order of magnitude beyond. Possibly half of the vilification hinged on some of the most outrageous black-helo/tinfoil-hat conspiracy crap I've ever heard in forty years.

    In reaction, most Republicans closed ranks and defended Bush, in public. However, among fellow Repubs and/or Conservatives, most were saying "WTF is he doing?" on many issues, especially domestic issues and spending. Many conservatives howled when Bush did the 08 bailout, and criticized him vehemently.

    Many of us who are part of the Tea movement, or sympathetic to it, have been raising hell about taxes, spending, waste and the expansion of gov't for a long time... just because some of you failed to notice until we got organized and the "TEA" label was used doesn't mean this is a new thing, or a strictly partisan thing.


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    Re: Media Exaggerate Tea Party's Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Both....
    Where's that link to our "multi Trillion dollar war"?
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