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    Microsoft may make budget-balancing game for US government

    Bipartisan commission has reportedly contacted Steve Ballmer about making a game that could let any US citizen suggest ways to deflate ballooning national debt.
    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6258115...es%3Btitle%3B5

    Interesting, lets get an army of gamers to work on testing out ideas to reducing our deficit. On the plus side I can see this potentially getting people involved who would otherwise be apathetic to it, but I can also see the game coming under a lot of heat when peoples methodologies fail to provide the expected results.

    How do you design such a game and model all the variables involved accurately? Also how do you remove potential bias surrounding the game and give it credibility? whether inadvertently biased because of in game handling of variables, or even just confirmation bias when peoples ideals do not yield the intended or expected results. Even if the game came up with the holy grail of deficit busting, I could see this generating a TON of controversy, and would question whether such a solution were it to be found would actually get implemented.

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    Re: Microsoft may make budget-balancing game for US government

    It's not a terrible idea.

    But I can guarantee that even if good ideas surface through the game, they'll be rejected because "they came from a game." WASPy politicians dont mix well with the video game generation.
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    Re: Microsoft may make budget-balancing game for US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    It's not a terrible idea.

    But I can guarantee that even if good ideas surface through the game, they'll be rejected because "they came from a game." WASPy politicians dont mix well with the video game generation.
    Those rejections will probably be valid. Can you really make an accurate simulation of such a large economy? Not to mention the "game" will probably ignore social or political implications of program cuts. Want to fix the budget? Disband the US military! Problem solved!
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    Re: Microsoft may make budget-balancing game for US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Want to fix the budget? Disband the US military! Problem solved!
    You really think that will do it? Ridiculous.

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    Re: Microsoft may make budget-balancing game for US government

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    You really think that will do it? Ridiculous.
    We'd be running at a surplus I believe. And no, it wasn't a serious suggestion. I really shouldn't have to explain these things...
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Microsoft may make budget-balancing game for US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    We'd be running at a surplus I believe. And no, it wasn't a serious suggestion. I really shouldn't have to explain these things...
    Deficit $1.4 trillion, Defense $650 billion

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    Re: Microsoft may make budget-balancing game for US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Those rejections will probably be valid. Can you really make an accurate simulation of such a large economy? Not to mention the "game" will probably ignore social or political implications of program cuts. Want to fix the budget? Disband the US military! Problem solved!
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    Re: Microsoft may make budget-balancing game for US government

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Deficit $1.4 trillion, Defense $650 billion
    The DOD budget is not the only military-related expense, and it doesn't account for the majority of spending on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Microsoft may make budget-balancing game for US government

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Microsoft may make budget-balancing game for US government - News at GameSpot

    Interesting, lets get an army of gamers to work on testing out ideas to reducing our deficit. On the plus side I can see this potentially getting people involved who would otherwise be apathetic to it, but I can also see the game coming under a lot of heat when peoples methodologies fail to provide the expected results.

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    Welcome to the future.. governance by video game here we come!
    Interesting, but I cannot help but become cynical when I think of the army of gamers in charge of methodologies to balance the budget.

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    Re: Microsoft may make budget-balancing game for US government

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Interesting, but I cannot help but become cynical when I think of the army of gamers in charge of methodologies to balance the budget.

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