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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    No, I specifically stated Democrats created the loopholes, you misrepresented what I said which you are famous for, I'm not going to allow you to do that. You either are going to start debating honestly or I'm going to report you.
    Sigh.

    You said Democrats created the loopholes.

    Then you cited creation of the income tax as an example.

    I noted that creating the tax itself isn't creation of a loophole. There were no "loopholes" in the original income tax.

    You got all mad and said you'd report me.

    If you have a problem with what I said, explain it. I have yet to see you explain yourself adequately. I don't think I'm misrepresenting you. This is part of debate.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    and you have the complete reality?
    I watched the DEM types do their best to keep blacks out of jobs, then turn around and criticize them for not working.
    I watched the DEM types keep blacks out of their all white neighborhoods and then criticze them for living in slums.
    I watched the NAVY steer blacks into the menial professions, the jobs that would keep them poor, instead of the technical jobs that would pay well in civilian life later on.
    One of my high school friends dad was a deputy sheriff who was racist as they come, and he bragged about how he and his fellow deputies would get hired by schools to keep the blacks from attending ball games at the all white schools.
    My dad, a lifelong democrat union machinist, turned Republican after he got first hand knowledge of how his own union treated blacks.
    Republicans weren't much better, I suspect, but then I didn't know any in the early 60's.

    The south was an ugly place in the 50's and 60's.....
    No doubt, Dems ran it. My problem is people trying to say "yeah but they were conservative" to try and use some kind of race smear. The truth is the Democrat party never was conservative, not even truly moderate if we are being honest.

    EDIT- I don't really know if political lean made a difference back then towards race relations either if we're being honest. But it is offensive to have people trying to assign something as disgusting as racism to a political lean to shame people away from it or smear. Let's win on ideas people, not political gotcha games.
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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

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    Sigh.

    You said Democrats created the loopholes.

    Then you cited creation of the income tax as an example.
    You can stop the games. I said they created the current income tax, I didn't say it was "to create the loopholes" it was to assert that they know how it works and what it's failings are. Also they know which groups need it to continue. The loopholes were a result of all politicians, but especially Democrats using the weaknesses and failings of the tax law to write backdoors towards avoiding paying more in taxes. The more money you have the more accessible these back doors are.

    I noted that creating the tax itself isn't creation of a loophole. There were no "loopholes" in the original income tax.

    You got all mad and said you'd report me.
    You completely misrepresented the argument, and still are.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    No doubt, Dems ran it. My problem is people trying to say "yeah but they were conservative" to try and use some kind of race smear.
    Of course they were conservative. They would proudly say so. It is possible to be conservative and racist at the same time. Just like it's possible to be a Democrat and conservative at the same time. There is no single definition of Democrat, or of conservative.

    I am not using this as a smear to say that all conservatives are racist. At the same time, nobody should try to smear Democrats or liberals as racist either.

    The truth is the Democrat party never was conservative, not even truly moderate if we are being honest
    The fact that this would mean that pretty much the entire South elected a bunch of liberals for 100 years after the Civil War should at least make you stop and think about what you're saying.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    [quote=LaMidRighter;1058699673]You can stop the games.[QUOTE]

    I'm not playing games. You can stop whining and start having a discussion.

    I said they created the current income tax, I didn't say it was "to create the loopholes" it was to assert that they know how it works and what it's failings are.
    Fine, whatever. You had responded directly to a claim that they didn't. It sure as hell looked like this is what you were arguing.

    The loopholes were a result of all politicians, but especially Democrats
    I see you've softened a little, that's progress.

    You completely misrepresented the argument, and still are.
    I called it as I saw it. If I was wrong, just explain and don't go whining. I'll accept your explanation.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I don't really know if political lean made a difference back then towards race relations either if we're being honest. But it is offensive to have people trying to assign something as disgusting as racism to a political lean to shame people away from it or smear. Let's win on ideas people, not political gotcha games.
    I agree. I have never said this means conservatism= racism. You need to stop saying that Democrat=liberal=racism.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    The KKK was founded by Democrats. You might want to check that trap's maintenance.
    That's true, but we all know that it is the Republicans that are now racist......... the libs tell us so.
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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Maybe someone was late on a mafia payment.
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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Maybe someone was late on a mafia payment.
    Okay, the randomness of that made me laugh. There is a well known mafia family in NOLA, but I seriously doubt these two were involved with that, then again, it is La.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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