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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Can't agree with you.....I grew up in the south and saw some of what is said about the southern DEMS becoming more like the GOP.
    "Some" is not the complete reality. The fact is that a conservative Democrat is still going to redistribute, game the system, and get creative with people's taxes, then take credit for the projects they fund. Misterman is wrong.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Political parties in the U.S. are very broad. There are (still) conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans, and there were alot more of each until the 1960s.
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    Left leaning GOP and right leaning DEM are about he same as moderates, and if they ever joined forces could elect a president. This would be done while the left, and right, extremists are pushing their own agendas.
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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Except for the fact that they wrote them in. So you only read between the lines when you need to restructure your arguments don't you? That's a pretty dishonest tactic.
    Excuse me, but the claim was that there were loopholes. My comments stand.

    That is a foolish statement, why don't you do some historical analysis and get back to me on that. BTW, you do know that the IRS and CPA lobbies are some of the largest political contributors in the U.S. right? And they back both parties heavily as a hedge.
    No, you do the analysis if you think there's some to be done.

    No it doesn't, it replaces the income tax for people who own property but do not draw an income directly from earnings, it subjects small businesses assets to taxable value if the the owner pays himself directly from profits. You really don't have a clue about economics, tax, and finance do you?
    It does all that too. I never said it was a good solution. It sure as hell isn't a "loophole" though. It was designed to close loopholes though.

    You are correct about that with a few minor exceptions and I don't have a defense for it. Then again I am more of a constitutionalist than a Republican.
    You don't need a defense for it. Just don't go around claiming that one party is guilty of something.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Left leaning GOP and right leaning DEM are about he same as moderates, and if they ever joined forces could elect a president. This would be done while the left, and right, extremists are pushing their own agendas.
    Possibly - but if it's a third candidate, it risks simply taking votes from one side and not the other, electing one of the other two. Ross Perot essentially did this.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Excuse me, but the claim was that there were loopholes. My comments stand.
    I said the Democrats caused them, stop misrepresenting my statements or I will report you. I'm getting tired of these little games of yours.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    "Some" is not the complete reality. The fact is that a conservative Democrat is still going to redistribute, game the system, and get creative with people's taxes, then take credit for the projects they fund.
    Then he's not a conservative, is he?

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I said the Democrats caused them, stop misrepresenting my statements or I will report you. I'm getting tired of these little games of yours.
    Get off your high horse. If I misunderstood you, just correct me, don't go whining that you'll tell on me.

    Creating the income tax isn't the same thing as creating loopholes for it. My statement stands.
    Last edited by misterman; 04-20-10 at 11:45 AM.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    What a crock.
    That shows just how ignorant you are and how unwilling you are to learn.

    History is real. It happened. Just denying it doesn't change that.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Get off your high horse. If I misunderstood you, just correct me, don't go whining that you'll tell on me.
    No, I specifically stated Democrats created the loopholes, you misrepresented what I said which you are famous for, I'm not going to allow you to do that. You either are going to start debating honestly or I'm going to report you.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Brutal attack on Republican fundraiser appears politically motivated

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    "Some" is not the complete reality. The fact is that a conservative Democrat is still going to redistribute, game the system, and get creative with people's taxes, then take credit for the projects they fund. Misterman is wrong.
    and you have the complete reality?
    I watched the DEM types do their best to keep blacks out of jobs, then turn around and criticize them for not working.
    I watched the DEM types keep blacks out of their all white neighborhoods and then criticze them for living in slums.
    I watched the NAVY steer blacks into the menial professions, the jobs that would keep them poor, instead of the technical jobs that would pay well in civilian life later on.
    One of my high school friends dad was a deputy sheriff who was racist as they come, and he bragged about how he and his fellow deputies would get hired by schools to keep the blacks from attending ball games at the all white schools.
    My dad, a lifelong democrat union machinist, turned Republican after he got first hand knowledge of how his own union treated blacks.
    Republicans weren't much better, I suspect, but then I didn't know any in the early 60's.

    The south was an ugly place in the 50's and 60's.....
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