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Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair

You don't know my brother, but he's an idiot. Among other things, he believes the world will end in 2012. He believed it would end in 2000, several other times. He just knows the future is doomed.

Remind you of a tea party member fretting about what the future might hold? Mind you, some reasonable concern, with some working action is prudent. However, being hyperbolic and silly doesn't meet that standard. Instead, it makes them like bother, an idiot.

As for Bush, who had the most ignorant policy I ever heard tell of (tax cut and spend), he did much that should have gotten a lot of people upset when it comes to spending. But too many simply excused him and that does open the question to why the over reaction now.

But that don't matter much. What matters is that they are hyperbolic, they are wrong factually on a lot of things, and they hurt discourse more then they help it with over the top signs and bill boards.
 
You don't know my brother, but he's an idiot. Among other things, he believes the world will end in 2012. He believed it would end in 2000, several other times. He just knows the future is doomed.

Remind you of a tea party member fretting about what the future might hold?

Not really.

Mind you, some reasonable concern, with some working action is prudent. However, being hyperbolic and silly doesn't meet that standard. Instead, it makes them like bother, an idiot.

I agree that the hyperbole and silliness isn't helping the cause and it detracts from the legitimate concerns that many of the tea partiers have and express without resorting to the hyperbole and silliness.

As for Bush, who had the most ignorant policy I ever heard tell of (tax cut and spend), he did much that should have gotten a lot of people upset when it comes to spending. But too many simply excused him and that does open the question to why the over reaction now.

I agree with the fact that too many people excused Bush. I'm not convinced that the entire tea party is comprised of these people.

But that don't matter much. What matters is that they are hyperbolic, they are wrong factually on a lot of things, and they hurt discourse more then they help it with over the top signs and bill boards.

I think the extremists in their midst are not only hurting discourse, but the actual cause itself. I do not believe the extremists are the majority of the tea partiers though.
 
Not really.



I agree that the hyperbole and silliness isn't helping the cause and it detracts from the legitimate concerns that many of the tea partiers have and express without resorting to the hyperbole and silliness.



I agree with the fact that too many people excused Bush. I'm not convinced that the entire tea party is comprised of these people.



I think the extremists in their midst are not only hurting discourse, but the actual cause itself. I do not believe the extremists are the majority of the tea partiers though.

We don't seem too far apart, except that I think more either lack knowledge or accept a lot of the hyperbole than you do. A majority? Hard to say. But the insight the survey took seems to suggest many are off a bit factually. And they don't do much to separate themselves from the worse among them. No matter how small that number, it will hurt the whole in the short and long run.
 
Whatta lie! Show us reduced taxes, since PBO took dictatorial powers.

I had an $800 tax credit added to my refund this year. So did every couple filing jointly. People filing single had a $400 credit.
 
Most people don't think that Federal Income taxes are too high. Effective tax rates for federal income tax payers are fairly low across the board. The complaints on federal income taxes generally stem from how much of a pain in the ass it is to file because of our complex and inefficient tax code.

When most people complain about high taxes, they are generally complaining about their taxes at the state and local levels, usually property, personal property, and sales taxes.
 
I'll tell you one thing, my taxes sure as **** aren't fair. I'm an independent contractor, so I get taxed as a higher rate than someone else who makes the exact same amount of money as I do because of small business taxes and such.

That's not a fair system.

That's true. I've been there. It sure hurts people trying to start their own businesses or work for themselves when they can't find a job.

The difficulty in getting private health insurance policies hurts alot too. (That's been fixed though).
 
nope--we are going to get patently screwed over. People under 250 K to about 80K are going to get latently screwed.

I'm definitely in that 80-250K range, and I got the $800. I don't see anything in the stimulus bill that excludes people making over 250K:

link

The house has approved the $787 billion stimulus package (even without Republican support), and the result includes a $400 per-worker tax credit for 2009 and 2010. The tax credit means the government will take a little less out of your check each week toward taxes, and has been estimated to be an extra $13 in your check each week for the rest of 2009, and around $7.70 per check throughout 2010. If you are self-employed like me, you will be able to adjust your quarterly tax filings to account for the credit.

Maybe you found a source saying that the over $250 K filers don't qualify.
 
Most people don't think that Federal Income taxes are too high. Effective tax rates for federal income tax payers are fairly low across the board. The complaints on federal income taxes generally stem from how much of a pain in the ass it is to file because of our complex and inefficient tax code.

When most people complain about high taxes, they are generally complaining about their taxes at the state and local levels, usually property, personal property, and sales taxes.

My property tax is the most unfair tax there is.
 
That's true. I've been there. It sure hurts people trying to start their own businesses or work for themselves when they can't find a job.

The difficulty in getting private health insurance policies hurts alot too. (That's been fixed though).

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how has it been "fixed" specifically? Link.
 
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how has it been "fixed" specifically? Link.

No more pre-existing conditions, the ability to buy it on the exchanges and get the same competitive prices as group coverage, the ability to get subsidies if necessary. Takes away pretty much all the barriers to buying a private policy.
 
No more pre-existing conditions, the ability to buy it on the exchanges and get the same competitive prices as group coverage, the ability to get subsidies if necessary. Takes away pretty much all the barriers to buying a private policy.


Nicw platitudes great talking points. No link thougj. :ssst:


My employees will have less choice. :thumbs:
 
No more pre-existing conditions, the ability to buy it on the exchanges and get the same competitive prices as group coverage, the ability to get subsidies if necessary. Takes away pretty much all the barriers to buying a private policy.

That's a link?

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Now that's a link.
 
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Huh? That's counterintuitive. The majority of Tea Partiers say their taxes are fair. The New York Times analysis helps to clarify Tea Partiers’ “fierce animosity toward Washington” is not over taxes specifically but rather a “deep pessimism about the direction of the country and the conviction that the policies of the Obama administration are disproportionately directed at helping the poor rather than the middle class or the rich.”

Agree with analysis or not these are interesting results at any rate.

Just further proof about the true motives of the teabaggers that comprise a large portion of the tea party.
 
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Something like 95% of the country have had their taxes go DOWN so far during the Obama administration.

This statement means nothing without a link to some kind of proof.
 
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