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    Re: Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Doesn't bother me all that much when all is said and done. I live comfortably and can afford the taxes.

    I was just pissed off when I posted that because I literally posted it within minutes of writing the check for my tax bill this year.
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    Re: Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Apart from hyperbole about dictatorial powers, here you go.
    It is interesting that taxes they are not paying upsets them so.

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    Re: Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It is interesting that taxes they are not paying upsets them so.
    You did see the other poll that showed they were wealthier, right? Kind of contradicts the idea that they are going to be beneficiaries of those cuts which were generally for the less wealthy.


    And it ignores the fact that they are worried about the future raising of taxes that will likely follow from the increased spending, especially for wealthier Americans.
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    Re: Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    You did see the other poll that showed they were wealthier, right? Kind of contradicts the idea that they are going to be beneficiaries of those cuts which were generally for the less wealthy.


    And it ignores the fact that they are worried about the future raising of taxes that will likely follow from the increased spending, especially for wealthier Americans.
    Not really. Even they are not seeing any real tax hikes. And the question boils down to how reasonable their fears are. They sure weren't out protesting Bush's spending. You have to question their reasoning, . . . a lot.

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    Re: Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not really. Even they are not seeing any real tax hikes.
    Well, I did say "future". Obviously the future wouldn't necessarily manifest itself in the present

    And the question boils down to how reasonable their fears are. They sure weren't out protesting Bush's spending. You have to question their reasoning, . . . a lot.
    Bush also cut taxes for the wealthy. Obama has stated he wants to increase taxes for the wealthy. He was pretty clear about that.

    When you look at the increased spending that has occurred, and the clearly stated desire from Obama regarding raising taxes on the wealthy, the fears are completely reasonable.

    As far as protesting Bush's spending, I know for a fact that many people on this site who are promoting the tea party were very much up in arms over the first stimulus bill that passed under Bush's watch.

    On top of that, the Tea Party has garnered quite a bit of support from libertarians, many of whom were very vocally against Bush's spending.

    Are there Republicans who are jumping on the tea party bandwagon for personal political gain? Absolutely. Partisanship unfortunately permeates every movement in this country these days, sickening people like me who despise the two-party system.

    But there also happen to be quite a few people in the Tea Party movement who think like me and despise both parties and the partisanship nonsense they spew.
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    Re: Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair

    You don't know my brother, but he's an idiot. Among other things, he believes the world will end in 2012. He believed it would end in 2000, several other times. He just knows the future is doomed.

    Remind you of a tea party member fretting about what the future might hold? Mind you, some reasonable concern, with some working action is prudent. However, being hyperbolic and silly doesn't meet that standard. Instead, it makes them like bother, an idiot.

    As for Bush, who had the most ignorant policy I ever heard tell of (tax cut and spend), he did much that should have gotten a lot of people upset when it comes to spending. But too many simply excused him and that does open the question to why the over reaction now.

    But that don't matter much. What matters is that they are hyperbolic, they are wrong factually on a lot of things, and they hurt discourse more then they help it with over the top signs and bill boards.

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    Re: Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You don't know my brother, but he's an idiot. Among other things, he believes the world will end in 2012. He believed it would end in 2000, several other times. He just knows the future is doomed.

    Remind you of a tea party member fretting about what the future might hold?
    Not really.

    Mind you, some reasonable concern, with some working action is prudent. However, being hyperbolic and silly doesn't meet that standard. Instead, it makes them like bother, an idiot.
    I agree that the hyperbole and silliness isn't helping the cause and it detracts from the legitimate concerns that many of the tea partiers have and express without resorting to the hyperbole and silliness.

    As for Bush, who had the most ignorant policy I ever heard tell of (tax cut and spend), he did much that should have gotten a lot of people upset when it comes to spending. But too many simply excused him and that does open the question to why the over reaction now.
    I agree with the fact that too many people excused Bush. I'm not convinced that the entire tea party is comprised of these people.

    But that don't matter much. What matters is that they are hyperbolic, they are wrong factually on a lot of things, and they hurt discourse more then they help it with over the top signs and bill boards.
    I think the extremists in their midst are not only hurting discourse, but the actual cause itself. I do not believe the extremists are the majority of the tea partiers though.
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    Re: Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Not really.



    I agree that the hyperbole and silliness isn't helping the cause and it detracts from the legitimate concerns that many of the tea partiers have and express without resorting to the hyperbole and silliness.



    I agree with the fact that too many people excused Bush. I'm not convinced that the entire tea party is comprised of these people.



    I think the extremists in their midst are not only hurting discourse, but the actual cause itself. I do not believe the extremists are the majority of the tea partiers though.
    We don't seem too far apart, except that I think more either lack knowledge or accept a lot of the hyperbole than you do. A majority? Hard to say. But the insight the survey took seems to suggest many are off a bit factually. And they don't do much to separate themselves from the worse among them. No matter how small that number, it will hurt the whole in the short and long run.

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    Re: Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Whatta lie! Show us reduced taxes, since PBO took dictatorial powers.
    I had an $800 tax credit added to my refund this year. So did every couple filing jointly. People filing single had a $400 credit.
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    Re: Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I had an $800 tax credit added to my refund this year. So did every couple filing jointly. People filing single had a $400 credit.



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