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    Re: 60 doctor-owned hospitals canceled due to new health law

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    Price controls have never and will never work.
    Who said anything about price controls?

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    Re: 60 doctor-owned hospitals canceled due to new health law

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Who said anything about price controls?
    Do you ever read posts, or just throw something out to up your post count ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley
    it's just one example, but I see no one looking to see if it accurately reflects the cost, or if the hospital is making more money then they need to cover the costs. Can you show me anyone who monitors this?
    Why monitor charges to determine if they accurately reflect the hospital's costs or attempt to determine if the hospital is making more money than they should if price control is not the goal ?????

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    Re: 60 doctor-owned hospitals canceled due to new health law

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Do you ever read posts,
    I read it, and I didn't see anyone advocating price controls. Either I missed it, or you're confused.

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    Re: 60 doctor-owned hospitals canceled due to new health law

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    I read it, and I didn't see anyone advocating price controls. Either I missed it, or you're confused.
    You missed it and you're confused.

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    Re: 60 doctor-owned hospitals canceled due to new health law

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    You missed it and you're confused.
    Could you kindly point to the message number where someone advocates price controls?

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    Re: 60 doctor-owned hospitals canceled due to new health law

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Could you kindly point to the message number where someone advocates price controls?

    Why do you insist on obfuscation in every post you make ???

    Read post 182 very slowly and carefully.

    Why monitor costs and charges if control is not the intent ?????????????

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    Re: 60 doctor-owned hospitals canceled due to new health law

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Why monitor charges to determine if they accurately reflect the hospital's costs or attempt to determine if the hospital is making more money than they should if price control is not the goal ?????
    I think you misunderstand. No reasonable person would consider $16.04 the proper charge for a bandaid when you can buy an entire box foe less than $2.00. So, if the hospital claims they are doing so to make up for the cost of treating those who can't pay, meaning they are passing the cost on to you, and the rest of us, with no mechanism to measure and monitor this, how can we know they are telling the truth? And how do you or the rest of us know which would cost more, the present ad hoc method, or paying through taxes? We pay either way, but certainly one has to be more cost effective than the other?

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    Re: 60 doctor-owned hospitals canceled due to new health law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think you misunderstand. No reasonable person would consider $16.04 the proper charge for a bandaid when you can buy an entire box foe less than $2.00. So, if the hospital claims they are doing so to make up for the cost of treating those who can't pay, meaning they are passing the cost on to you, and the rest of us, with no mechanism to measure and monitor this, how can we know they are telling the truth? And how do you or the rest of us know which would cost more, the present ad hoc method, or paying through taxes? We pay either way, but certainly one has to be more cost effective than the other?
    So... you think we should monitor the hospitals' cost of doing business, but do nothing about problems ???

    Why does one method have to be more cost effective than the other ??

    Will the cost of band aids go down under health care reform ???

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    Re: 60 doctor-owned hospitals canceled due to new health law

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Why do you insist on obfuscation in every post you make ???

    Read post 182 very slowly and carefully.

    Why monitor costs and charges if control is not the intent ?????????????
    Why do you have to be a jerk about this?

    I don't see this as a call for cost controls. Not even close. There are many reasons for wanting to monitor prices - so that private citizens, or insurance companies, can make decisions based on them, for instance. And Boo has set you straight. Thanks for admitting that nobody has explicitly called for price controls, which was my point in the first place. Don't be such an irrascible putz next time.
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    Re: 60 doctor-owned hospitals canceled due to new health law

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    So... you think we should monitor the hospitals' cost of doing business, but do nothing about problems ???
    Who said do nothing?

    Giving consumers knowledge about prices is doing something.

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